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Author Topic: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio  (Read 5763 times)

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Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2023, 01:51:35 AM »
Conversely, some won't accept any help God sends them.


Why would you accept help from somebody who lies to your face?


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Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2023, 08:53:48 AM »

While I agree that Vigano has said some questionable things in the past, what he is saying now is spot on:

1. Vigano calls out the Antipope and the AntiChurch
 
"A crucifix dipped in urine is worth a papal audience full of smiles and a 'thumbs up'; the Pachamama thrown into the Tiber arouses deploration. One wonders of which 'church' he can be considered 'pope': certainly not the Catholic one."

He says Bergoglio is CERTAINLY NOT the Pope of the CATHOLIC CHURCH. He is, at the very least, saying that Bergoglio has defected and that, currently, the is not a legitimate Roman Pontiff


2. Vigano suspects that Bergoglio is the Antichrist

"One wonders if the antichrist is not seated already on the throne of Peter."

Vigano correctly identifies the Antichrist as the "Pope" of the Counterfeit Church, the Anti-Pope of the Anti-Church.

Please meditate on the words from St. Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2:

3 Let no man deceive you by any means, for unless there come a revolt first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition, 4 Who opposeth, and is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself as if he were God

The "revolt" is the Synod on Synodality. The man who opposes "all that is called God" is Bergoglio. And it is Bergoglio that has usurped the Holy See and "sitteth in the temple of God." He shows himself "as if he were God" when he, for example, undermines the teachings of Jesus Christ and his Church on unrepented mortal sin being an impediment to receiving Holy Communion (Amoris Laetitia).


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Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2023, 10:45:48 AM »

Why would you accept help from somebody who lies to your face?

It's a huge stretch and another slander to call him a liar.  It's one thing to consider him mistaken about one or another matter.  I think he was too hopeful of Trump's sincerity and intentions to do good, and I felt he was too soft on Ratzinger when he passed away ... for instance.  But it's quite another thing to call him a liar.  You have proof that he was lying?  It's been one thing after another from you, slandering him as being a Mason because of how he closed some of his letters ... when it was pointed out to you that it's merely an Italian expression, found even in Traditional Catholic Italian Missals, that's the equivalent of Amen.  You never retract these errors even after they're exposed, but keep doubling down on your slanders.

And you also continue to slander him pretty much every time you post by implying in your signature line that you and your family are in danger for exposing +Vigano, as if the latter were inclined to put a hit out on you for posting on CathInfo.

Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2023, 10:51:58 AM »
And you also continue to slander him pretty much every time you post by implying in your signature line that you and your family are in danger for exposing +Vigano, as if the latter were inclined to put a hit out on you for posting on CathInfo.
Indicative of paranoia present in those that spend too much time researching evil. Someone has to expose it, I know. A woman? Hardly.

Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2023, 12:11:21 PM »
I'm willing to give him a chance, but will he ask a real Bishop (like Williamson or Faure) to consecrate him using the traditional Rite? Then he could do some good by properly ordaining in the traditional rite all of those New Rite cancelled priests.
He may have already done this, but discretely.