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Author Topic: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio  (Read 5771 times)

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Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2023, 03:57:48 PM »
As I have collected his complete works, and followed his conversion to Tradition, I can say that at this time (i.e., May - 2020), he had just started saying the Tridentine Mass 6 months prior, and his doctrinal conversion followed rapidly.  In another year, he would be questioning the legitimacy of Vatican II and rejecting the entire conciliar church, and calling for a reversion to the pre-Pian liturgy.

Well, he's not above lying and gaslighting the public as he did when he told the Awaken America Rally that the pandemic farce would have never taken place under Trump.  smh

And like sheep under a spell they cheered!

Umm...Operation Warpseed anyone?

When people are desperate for a hero they'll overlook anything I guess.



Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2023, 04:48:13 PM »
Well, he's not above lying and gaslighting the public as he did when he told the Awaken America Rally that the pandemic farce would have never taken place under Trump.  smh

And like sheep under a spell they cheered!

Umm...Operation Warpseed anyone?

When people are desperate for a hero they'll overlook anything I guess.

Conversely, some won't accept any help God sends them.

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Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2023, 05:00:46 PM »


https://twitter.com/CarloMVigano/status/1675890049085321216?s=20

Excellent.  This exposes very articulately the hypocrisy, and therefore bad will, of Jorge.  One could try to explain away his heretical attitudes as Jorge just being a "nice guy", but his "who am I to judge?" evaporates when he's dealing with these wicked Traditional Catholics or only conservative ones, such as Bishop Strickland, for protesting the Dodgers blasphemy.  Everyone's religion and religious experience is good and valid ... except for that of Traditional Catholics, since they're evil, wicked, proselytizing "Pelagians".  Worship the Great Thumb, Pachamama, etc.  All forms of worship are great and valid ... except for the Tridentine Mass.  What a scuмbag.  Just when you think he can't go lower, he does.  While he's all smiles for every manner of heretic, pervert, and deviant, his fangs come out and he explodes with rage at the mere mention of the Tridentine Mass.

Over the years, I've met only a small handful of "sincere" liberals, who did in fact say, "Hey, you like the Tridentine Mass?  If that's your thing, good for you."  Most, however, had this same Bergoglian attitude of having everything be allowed and valid and legitimate ... except Traditional Catholicism.

I enjoyed seeing +Vigano putting "pope" in quotations marks.  Jorge is helping to wake him up more every single day.

PS:  Why don't we ever find such hard-hitting statements from the SSPX?

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Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2023, 05:08:17 PM »
As I have collected his complete works, and followed his conversion to Tradition, I can say that at this time (i.e., May - 2020), he had just started saying the Tridentine Mass 6 months prior, and his doctrinal conversion followed rapidly.  In another year, he would be questioning the legitimacy of Vatican II and rejecting the entire conciliar church, and calling for a reversion to the pre-Pian liturgy.

Yeah, leave it to Miser here to start derailing every thread about +Vigano with her often-slanderous smear jobs.  As you said, +Vigano has changed and has learned over time.  We're trying to discuss his latest communication (in the OP), and she immediately tries to derail it.  Thank God that He forgives us for past sins and mistakes and errors, or we'd all be lost ... except Miser, as she who is without sin always has the stone in her hand ready to cast.  Archbishop Lefebvre changed his mind about various things over the years.  So have I.  So have many Traditional Catholics.  I recall in college how when challenged by a non-Catholic roommate of mine about EENS, I started to explain it away ... and now I'm a Feeneyite.  This kind of attack would be like someone calling me out now on an EENS thread for things I said, thought, and believed many years ago.  People are entitled to make mistakes also, even now.  Lots of Traditional Catholics initially supported Trump too, thinking that he was at least the lesser or two evils.  Not Miser, though.  She's impeccable and infallible at all times.

Now we'll probably have unleashed the Kraken and get treated to 4 pages of spam posts about Noahide laws and Trump, when the topic of discussion here should be +Vigano calling out Bergoglio's hypocrisy and putting the term "pope" in quotes.