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Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
« on: July 03, 2023, 02:35:27 PM »
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    Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Jorge Bergoglio
    « Reply #1 on: July 03, 2023, 02:36:44 PM »
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    • Has Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano finally come to the conclusion that Jorge Bergoglio is an antipope?

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    Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
    « Reply #2 on: July 03, 2023, 02:56:27 PM »
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    • Has he changed his mind on false religions and who the Antichrist will be?


    See this video at the 7:31 mark 

    https://youtu.be/nES89qnv9x8?t=450

    He says:





    ARCHBISHOP VIGANÒ OMITS FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST AND THE CHURCH IN LETTER TO RABBI
    (from the comments)
    Vigano not only failed to mention Christ, the true Jєωιѕн Messiah but falsely stated that Israel is NOT looking for an anti-Christ, when it is exactly what Israel is looking for! 

    https://www.fromrome.info/2020/05/27/archbishop-vigano-omits-faith-in-jesus-christ-and-the-church-in-letter-to-rabbi/



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    Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
    « Reply #3 on: July 03, 2023, 03:06:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on July 03, 2023, 02:56:27 PM
    Has he changed his mind on false religions and who the Antichrist will be?


    See this video at the 7:31 mark

    https://youtu.be/nES89qnv9x8?t=450

    He says:





    ARCHBISHOP VIGANÒ OMITS FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST AND THE CHURCH IN LETTER TO RABBI
    (from the comments)
    Vigano not only failed to mention Christ, the true Jєωιѕн Messiah but falsely stated that Israel is NOT looking for an anti-Christ, when it is exactly what Israel is looking for!

    https://www.fromrome.info/2020/05/27/archbishop-vigano-omits-faith-in-jesus-christ-and-the-church-in-letter-to-rabbi/

    As I have collected his complete works, and followed his conversion to Tradition, I can say that at this time (i.e., May - 2020), he had just started saying the Tridentine Mass 6 months prior, and his doctrinal conversion followed rapidly.  In another year, he would be questioning the legitimacy of Vatican II and rejecting the entire conciliar church, and calling for a reversion to the pre-Pian liturgy.
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    Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Jorge Bergoglio
    « Reply #4 on: July 03, 2023, 03:09:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Catholic Knight on July 03, 2023, 02:36:44 PM
    Has Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano finally come to the conclusion that Jorge Bergoglio is an antipope?

    Not sure, but elsewhere on his new Exsurge Domine website, he said this:

    “If in those years the loss of the Faith was increasingly evident, in this last decade one wonders if the Antichrist is not now seated on the Throne of Peter.”

    http://Https://exsurgedomine.it/docuмenti/ 

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    Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
    « Reply #5 on: July 03, 2023, 03:52:43 PM »
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    Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
    « Reply #6 on: July 03, 2023, 03:57:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on July 03, 2023, 03:06:38 PM
    As I have collected his complete works, and followed his conversion to Tradition, I can say that at this time (i.e., May - 2020), he had just started saying the Tridentine Mass 6 months prior, and his doctrinal conversion followed rapidly.  In another year, he would be questioning the legitimacy of Vatican II and rejecting the entire conciliar church, and calling for a reversion to the pre-Pian liturgy.

    Well, he's not above lying and gaslighting the public as he did when he told the Awaken America Rally that the pandemic farce would have never taken place under Trump.  smh

    And like sheep under a spell they cheered!

    Umm...Operation Warpseed anyone?

    When people are desperate for a hero they'll overlook anything I guess.

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    Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
    « Reply #7 on: July 03, 2023, 04:48:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on July 03, 2023, 03:57:48 PM
    Well, he's not above lying and gaslighting the public as he did when he told the Awaken America Rally that the pandemic farce would have never taken place under Trump.  smh

    And like sheep under a spell they cheered!

    Umm...Operation Warpseed anyone?

    When people are desperate for a hero they'll overlook anything I guess.

    Conversely, some won't accept any help God sends them.
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    Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
    « Reply #8 on: July 03, 2023, 05:00:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Catholic Knight on July 03, 2023, 02:35:27 PM


    https://twitter.com/CarloMVigano/status/1675890049085321216?s=20

    Excellent.  This exposes very articulately the hypocrisy, and therefore bad will, of Jorge.  One could try to explain away his heretical attitudes as Jorge just being a "nice guy", but his "who am I to judge?" evaporates when he's dealing with these wicked Traditional Catholics or only conservative ones, such as Bishop Strickland, for protesting the Dodgers blasphemy.  Everyone's religion and religious experience is good and valid ... except for that of Traditional Catholics, since they're evil, wicked, proselytizing "Pelagians".  Worship the Great Thumb, Pachamama, etc.  All forms of worship are great and valid ... except for the Tridentine Mass.  What a scuмbag.  Just when you think he can't go lower, he does.  While he's all smiles for every manner of heretic, pervert, and deviant, his fangs come out and he explodes with rage at the mere mention of the Tridentine Mass.

    Over the years, I've met only a small handful of "sincere" liberals, who did in fact say, "Hey, you like the Tridentine Mass?  If that's your thing, good for you."  Most, however, had this same Bergoglian attitude of having everything be allowed and valid and legitimate ... except Traditional Catholicism.

    I enjoyed seeing +Vigano putting "pope" in quotations marks.  Jorge is helping to wake him up more every single day.

    PS:  Why don't we ever find such hard-hitting statements from the SSPX?
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    Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
    « Reply #9 on: July 03, 2023, 05:08:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on July 03, 2023, 03:06:38 PM
    As I have collected his complete works, and followed his conversion to Tradition, I can say that at this time (i.e., May - 2020), he had just started saying the Tridentine Mass 6 months prior, and his doctrinal conversion followed rapidly.  In another year, he would be questioning the legitimacy of Vatican II and rejecting the entire conciliar church, and calling for a reversion to the pre-Pian liturgy.

    Yeah, leave it to Miser here to start derailing every thread about +Vigano with her often-slanderous smear jobs.  As you said, +Vigano has changed and has learned over time.  We're trying to discuss his latest communication (in the OP), and she immediately tries to derail it.  Thank God that He forgives us for past sins and mistakes and errors, or we'd all be lost ... except Miser, as she who is without sin always has the stone in her hand ready to cast.  Archbishop Lefebvre changed his mind about various things over the years.  So have I.  So have many Traditional Catholics.  I recall in college how when challenged by a non-Catholic roommate of mine about EENS, I started to explain it away ... and now I'm a Feeneyite.  This kind of attack would be like someone calling me out now on an EENS thread for things I said, thought, and believed many years ago.  People are entitled to make mistakes also, even now.  Lots of Traditional Catholics initially supported Trump too, thinking that he was at least the lesser or two evils.  Not Miser, though.  She's impeccable and infallible at all times.

    Now we'll probably have unleashed the Kraken and get treated to 4 pages of spam posts about Noahide laws and Trump, when the topic of discussion here should be +Vigano calling out Bergoglio's hypocrisy and putting the term "pope" in quotes.
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    Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
    « Reply #10 on: July 03, 2023, 05:15:34 PM »
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    • I wonder what would happen if +Vigano came out and stated his belief that Jorge is not the Pope and that a conclave should be held.  I imagine the SSPX would refuse to get on board.
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    Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
    « Reply #11 on: July 03, 2023, 05:28:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on July 03, 2023, 05:08:17 PM
    I recall in college how when challenged by a non-Catholic roommate of mine about EENS, I started to explain it away ... and now I'm a Feeneyite.  This kind of attack would be like someone calling me out now on an EENS thread for things I said, thought, and believed many years ago.

    No, no, it's nothing like your experience, because you made the wrong choice and became a Feeneyite. Miser is making the right choice in exposing Vigano and other forms of controlled opposition.
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    Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
    « Reply #12 on: July 03, 2023, 05:29:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on July 03, 2023, 05:15:34 PM
    I wonder what would happen if +Vigano came out and stated his belief that Jorge is not the Pope and that a conclave should be held.  I imagine the SSPX would refuse to get on board.

    I wonder if he is having discreet conversations with Roman clergy?
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    Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
    « Reply #13 on: July 03, 2023, 05:31:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: dxcat40 on July 03, 2023, 05:28:22 PM
    No, no, it's nothing like your experience, because you made the wrong choice and became a Feeneyite. Miser is making the right choice in exposing Vigano and other forms of controlled opposition.

    Behold the shill who's on the wrong side of every issue, from Feeneyism, Ukraine situation, +Vigano, and even Flat Earth.  Maybe you can denounce Miser for being a Flat Earther also.  But you're just doing and promoting the work of Satan while pretending to be good, having put your lies and dishonestly on display time and again.  Most people are a mix, but you're consistently wrong about everything due to your bad will.
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    Re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano on Antipope Jorge Bergoglio
    « Reply #14 on: July 03, 2023, 05:32:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on July 03, 2023, 05:29:02 PM
    I wonder if he is having discreet conversations with Roman clergy?

    One can only hope.  But who knows?

    While you're of a different mindset regarding the current status of Bergoglio, I think we can all agree that in the case of a heretical pope, step one would always to be to identify and publicly call him as such.  SOMEone in a position of authority or credible leadership has to come forward to "start the ball rolling" on whatever process would be required to either declare him removed or the "ministerially remove" this man from office (regardless of which theoretical position one has on the matter).

    There's no question but that Jorge is a manifest heretic.
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