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Offline Raoul76

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Apologies are in order.
« on: June 29, 2009, 02:57:53 AM »
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  • No, I'm not becoming an SSPX-er.

    I just wanted to apologize to Malachi Martin, or the spirit of Malachi Martin, and David Hobson, for having called them "con men."  This kind of judgmental name-calling is not Catholic and I'm going to try to never do it again, though being weak, I probably will slip up on occasion.

    From now on I will just present whatever facts I have about various personages and leave the rest for the reader to decide.

    Today I was talking to someone at Church "who knows someone who knows someone" who knew Malachi Martin.  This person's impression was that Martin sincerely wanted to believe that "Pope" John Paul II was going along with modern, liberal pressures while resisting them in his heart.  He told a story of how Martin was one day conversing with JPII and asked him to take a stand against liberal trends that had gone too far.  JPII turned to him and said "We do not have the same faith."  Supposedly this set Malachi Martin on the road to a sedevacantist position, which he may have adopted before death.

    Anyway, for some reason I'd scoffed at Malachi's naivete, which I'd assumed was fake, while defending Thomas Droleskey, who was a supporter of John Paul II for a long, long time.  This was a clear double-standard on my part and I apologize.

    Many troubling questions about Malachi Martin remain but I have no special insight into his soul nor the place to judge him.  I'll pray for him instead.  As for David Hobson, I don't approve of his calling Bishop Pivarunas a heretic or other methods of fear-based persuasion he uses, but again, "con man" is going too far.  For a nonentity like me, anyway.  It may turn out that's what he is but I'll leave God to decide ( isn't that magnanimous of me? )

    My apologies once again.

    P.S. Regarding the Malachi Martin/JPII anecdote, I was told that all this happened AFTER the completion of his novel Windswept House, as a way of explaining that book's defense of JPII.  Yet that book was published in 1998 and Malachi Martin died in 1999.  

    Let's assume that the book existed in manuscript form before it was published, for years while Malachi worked on it.  That would mean HE CONTINUED WORK ON IT and HAD IT PUBLISHED even after he had decided JPII was an apostate against the faith.  

    I don't know what to say.  Let's just say old Malachi was "mysterious."
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    Apologies are in order.
    « Reply #1 on: June 29, 2009, 03:02:30 AM »
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  • Unless, of course, the falling-out between JPII and Martin happened between 1998 and 1999.  
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    Apologies are in order.
    « Reply #2 on: June 29, 2009, 10:33:56 AM »
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  • This is a confusing time. I respect the fact that you would say this, and appreciate it.

    I'm naming my son who is to be born in July, Malachi, in his honor, actually.

    (Also because I have more than 80 cousins on my father's side, and all of the Joe's, Bob's, Mike's, Dave's and Peter's have been taken already four times over.  :smile:)

    Pray for all the departed traditional priests that God will grant them the eternal rest that they worked to provide for all of us so earnestly. We're all human beings with fallen natures.

    The priest at my church just had his 35th anniversary of ordination to the priesthood today. Yesterday we celebrated it at Church. There were little booklets that were handed out, and one of the quotations in there I think is fitting in this circuмstance.

    "Great initiatives, generous works and superior sacrifices have been his (the priest's) contribution to society. The priest is a person of integrity and silence. When a man falls down because of human weakness, he is forgiven, but for the priest there is no forgiveness, only criticism and judgment. Who are they who judge and condemn the priest? They are often those he has served faithfully and well. "

    I think about Father Martin, and how many people whose confessions he heard, whose baptisms he gave, whose exorcisms he performed, whose problems he lent his ear to,  whose weddings he blessed, how many people he fed with Our Blessed Lord to feed their souls, how many bedsides he was at to help the ailing soul facing the dreaded meeting with the Almighty God at the time of death and judgment, and I think about how much criticism he endures still to this day with all the souls he was responsible for to lead to heaven. Grave responsibilities, all under appreciated, are the responsibilities of the priest.

    May God have mercy on us, and on those who have left this world before us.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    Apologies are in order.
    « Reply #3 on: June 29, 2009, 11:16:03 AM »
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  • The obsession of Mr. Grasimier of angel-queen to destroy Malachi Martin is one of the disgraces of the blogoshere.

    I have always loved "Gerard" for his patience in defending Malachi Martin.  "servi" used numerous multiple identities and banned hundereds for trying to correct this forum admin's defamation.

    I have no idea what was in "servis" heart in his crusade against Martin, but the obssession to destroy this man speaks volumes and raises many questions.

    Malachi Martin.  He knew exactly who he was dealing with in his Art Bell interview.  The attempts to defame him because he was a guest on this talk show, because the host is whatever he is is downright PATHETIC.   That's like trying to discredit someone for selling their car to someone of X (not Catholic) group.  

    See, "servi" blocked and banned so many people who have anecdotes like you friend at church, Raoul.  His crusade to destroy Malachi Martin was succsessful in the short run.

    Check out Michael Corbin, pal of Martin.  Read "The Keys of this Blood" by Malachi Martin.  Read "The Final Conclave"  
    Michael Corbin was myseriously dead a couple of years ago.  Check out that rabbit-hole before rendering judgement on Malachi Martin.  "servi's" "proof" is such hateful garbage.

    Listen to Malachi Martin's YouTube speeches to a pro-life congress and then form an opinion of this enigmatic polyglot exorcist.  To complain that he was published by Jєωs is pure racist BS.

    But THANKS FOR THE APOLOGY :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

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    Apologies are in order.
    « Reply #4 on: June 29, 2009, 11:29:52 AM »
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  • As I stated elsewhere my priest was acquinted with Fr. Martin. He said he was a great person. My priest is an exorcist, last about 6 months ago, as was Fr. Martin.
    Yes pray for priests but especially hard for those that are exorcists. My priest said that it is not something priests are rushing to become. An exorcist, an so there are very few. He said it is an honor for him to be able to battle for souls (for those who desire to be truly free from satan), and he plans to continue the battle. It means he travels far and wide and it is hard on their health.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 29, 2009, 11:32:12 AM »
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  • Mr. Grasmier is certainly not perfect, at least as regards his grasp of the truth (which is something I am indeed competent to judge -- the state of his soul is anybody's guess).

    I only know that he's one of those anti-Fatima zealots who perform a knee-jerk reaction to the other extreme, upon observing that some people are excessive in their devotion.

    With regard to Fatima, Grasmier is like a man observing a father giving away too much of his family's money to the poor, so he resolves never to give a cent to anyone. To him I ask, "How is sinning by defect any worse than sinning by excess?"

    He's also very much against Bishop Williamson. On this I strongly disagree with him as well.

    I will point out that devotion to the Blessed Mother is a "positive indicator" of the state of one's soul. When you see someone talking against honoring our Blessed Mother, you can sadly conclude they are not on the path to salvation.

    Those aren't my words -- that is what many saints have said.

    To be fair, I give Grasmier credit for his excellent articles on subjects like the current economic collapse. But we have plenty we disagree on (such as how to run a good Internet forum).

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    « Reply #6 on: June 29, 2009, 12:11:01 PM »
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  • Wake up people-- Michael Corbin was a Judaic. He used to have a real spooky pic of himself on his website wearing a purple cape and looking like a warlock.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #7 on: June 29, 2009, 12:12:40 PM »
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  • imo ANYONE who associates with Coast 2 Coast AM is a phoney
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


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    « Reply #8 on: June 29, 2009, 12:34:47 PM »
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    Wake up people-- Michael Corbin was a Judaic. He used to have a real spooky pic of himself on his website wearing a purple cape and looking like a warlock.


    What an ignorant, racist statement.  Corbin was Catholic.  Are you over 18 years?

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    « Reply #9 on: June 29, 2009, 12:35:56 PM »
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    imo ANYONE who associates with Coast 2 Coast AM is a phoney


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    « Reply #10 on: June 29, 2009, 12:36:41 PM »
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    Mr. Grasmier is certainly not perfect, at least as regards his grasp of the truth (which is something I am indeed competent to judge -- the state of his soul is anybody's guess).

    I only know that he's one of those anti-Fatima zealots who perform a knee-jerk reaction to the other extreme, upon observing that some people are excessive in their devotion.

    With regard to Fatima, Grasmier is like a man observing a father giving away too much of his family's money to the poor, so he resolves never to give a cent to anyone. To him I ask, "How is sinning by defect any worse than sinning by excess?"

    He's also very much against Bishop Williamson. On this I strongly disagree with him as well.

    I will point out that devotion to the Blessed Mother is a "positive indicator" of the state of one's soul. When you see someone talking against honoring our Blessed Mother, you can sadly conclude they are not on the path to salvation.

    Those aren't my words -- that is what many saints have said.

    To be fair, I give Grasmier credit for his excellent articles on subjects like the current economic collapse. But we have plenty we disagree on (such as how to run a good Internet forum).

    Matthew


    I have noticed alot more neo-cons have been posting on AQ lately.


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    « Reply #11 on: June 29, 2009, 12:43:05 PM »
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  • cos everyone good got banned or quit in disgust

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    « Reply #12 on: June 29, 2009, 12:47:16 PM »
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  •  :sign-party-time:anyway,  I still admire Raoul's apology



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    « Reply #13 on: June 29, 2009, 12:48:22 PM »
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  • Angelqueen "seems" to be more popular than CathInfo, but only because its positions are more popular -- they appeal to more people (e.g., Bishop Williamson is not popular because he speaks the truth).

    Also, Angelqueen is more well-established than CathInfo. It was started in 2004, whereas Cathinfo was started in August 2006.

    I seriously wonder how many of the "3507 users" still regularly visit, or even how many of them are non-banned? How many are the same person trying to come back because a previous account was banned? We all know how ban-happy John Grasmier is.

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    « Reply #14 on: June 29, 2009, 12:57:17 PM »
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  • Quote from: ChantCd
    Angelqueen "seems" to be more popular than CathInfo, but only because its positions are more popular -- they appeal to more people (e.g., Bishop Williamson is not popular because he speaks the truth).

    Also, Angelqueen is more well-established than CathInfo. It was started in 2004, whereas Cathinfo was started in August 2006.

    I seriously wonder how many of the "3507 users" still regularly visit, or even how many of them are non-banned? How many are the same person trying to come back because a previous account was banned? We all know how ban-happy John Grasmier is.

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    Our users have posted a total of 307934 articles
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    Well it's a safe bet a number of the aq posters are sock puppets of Mr. G. :laugh1:

    Like the ones who came to FE that time, his so-called "pilot whales" That's a sign of a darn weak arguement :laugh2: