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Francis read ‘Inside the Closet at the Vatican’ and said it was “good”






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ROME - A prominent advocate in the fight against clerical abuse has said that during a recent private audience at the Vatican, Pope Francis told him he’d read Inside the Closet at the Vatican, a book about homosexuality in the Catholic Church, and said that he was already aware of many of the priests mentioned in it who are gay.

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“He said he read it. He said it was good and that he knew of many of them. We discussed good gays and the gays who are evil, but because of power,” the advocate said in a text message obtained by Crux.

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The message from the person was sent to Frèdèric Martel, French journalist and author of Inside the Closet at the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy, a book published Feb. 21 that details the presence of homosexuality in the Catholic Church and that is the product of four years of research and interviews with more than 1,500 individuals in 30 countries, including 41 cardinals, 52 bishops, and 45 apostolic nuncios.

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Crux verified the text message with the sender, who prefers to remain anonymous.


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Advocate says pope read, liked new book on gays in the Vatican, Crux News, 10 May 2019


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Re: Anyone know the distinction between "good gays and evil gays " ?
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2019, 04:43:39 AM »
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  • The man is plainly evil.


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    « Reply #2 on: May 13, 2019, 07:43:41 AM »
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  • Francis represents a jew-pope "unleashed" within a long series of  modernist "jew-popes".

    Oh Lord, please have mercy on us and put an end to it ?   :pray:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Anyone know the distinction between "good gays and evil gays " ?
    « Reply #3 on: May 13, 2019, 02:55:57 PM »
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  • Francis is a follower of Martin Luther. Luther is in hell. :fryingpan:

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    Re: Anyone know the distinction between "good gays and evil gays " ?
    « Reply #4 on: May 14, 2019, 09:59:28 PM »
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  • Francis is a follower of Martin Luther. Luther is in hell. :fryingpan:
    I don't think Martin Luther would've said that gays should be able to be priests or that they are "Good."

    Also while I grant that Luther's damnation is likely, does anyone really know for sure?  Like do we really know he didn't repent in his last moments?  Do we really know with certainty on his level of culpability?  (I realize the latter question is irrelevant for feeneyites, but the former question isn't.)  Again, I agree that its highly likely, if I had to guess that's what I'd guess too, but is there any point in saying people are certainly in Hell?  What am I missing?


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    Re: Anyone know the distinction between "good gays and evil gays " ?
    « Reply #5 on: May 15, 2019, 05:09:37 AM »
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  • I don't think Martin Luther would've said that gays should be able to be priests or that they are "Good."

    Also while I grant that Luther's damnation is likely, does anyone really know for sure?  Like do we really know he didn't repent in his last moments?  Do we really know with certainty on his level of culpability?  (I realize the latter question is irrelevant for feeneyites, but the former question isn't.)  Again, I agree that its highly likely, if I had to guess that's what I'd guess too, but is there any point in saying people are certainly in Hell?  What am I missing?
    It is certain that Luther is in Hell and it can be said that he was, in fact, damned. Is it absolutely certain that this is so? no.  

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    Re: Anyone know the distinction between "good gays and evil gays " ?
    « Reply #6 on: May 20, 2019, 08:22:47 AM »
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  • It is certain that Luther is in Hell and it can be said that he was, in fact, damned. Is it absolutely certain that this is so? no.  
    The Church teaches that you cannot have that absolute certitude. It could be. You can conjecture. But then you could be wrong.   

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    « Reply #7 on: May 20, 2019, 06:00:42 PM »
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  • The Church teaches that you cannot have that absolute certitude. It could be. You can conjecture. But then you could be wrong.  
    Didn’t I say that it is not absolutely certain that he is in Hell? Luther is treated by the Church as a lost soul, hence he wasn’t entitled to an ecclesiastical burial. I am 99.999% certain that he is in Hell and there is not one shred of evidence that he repented before he died. You make it seem like he had a decent chance to be saved.


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    Re: Anyone know the distinction between "good gays and evil gays " ?
    « Reply #8 on: May 20, 2019, 08:10:19 PM »
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  • Francis read ‘Inside the Closet at the Vatican’ and said it was “good”




    Francis is just repeating another Satanic lie from the father of all lies.

    Lord Jesus Christ, we beseech Thee to stop all these lies.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Anyone know the distinction between "good gays and evil gays " ?
    « Reply #9 on: May 21, 2019, 03:58:11 AM »
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  • SIGNS OF THE TIMES
    Equality Act vote again pits Catholic nuns against bishops
    BY THOMAS REESERELIGION NEWS SERVICE
     MAY 20, 2019 


    Last week the House of Representatives passed H.R. 5, known as the Equality Act, which would strengthen bans on discrimination against LGBTQ persons by adding "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" to the definition of "sex" in federal civil rights laws. The measure got the support of *NETWORK,a social justice lobby led by Catholic nuns, but was opposed by the U.S. Catholic bishops.
    *Nuns on bun bus 
    To live with the Saints in Heaven is all bliss and glory....To live with the saints on Earth is just another story!  (unknown)

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    Re: Anyone know the distinction between "good gays and evil gays " ?
    « Reply #10 on: May 21, 2019, 06:48:52 AM »
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    6I wonder that you are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ, unto another gospel. 7Which is not another: only there are some that trouble you and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema. 9As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be anathema.
    10For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? If I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.   Douay - Rheims  Galatians 
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    Re: Anyone know the distinction between "good gays and evil gays " ?
    « Reply #11 on: May 21, 2019, 11:09:07 PM »
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  • SIGNS OF THE TIMES
    Equality Act vote again pits Catholic nuns against bishops
    BY THOMAS REESE, RELIGION NEWS SERVICE
     MAY 20, 2019


    Last week the House of Representatives passed H.R. 5, known as the Equality Act, which would strengthen bans on discrimination against LGBTQ persons by adding "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" to the definition of "sex" in federal civil rights laws. The measure got the support of *NETWORK,a social justice lobby led by Catholic nuns, but was opposed by the U.S. Catholic bishops.
    *Nuns on bun bus

    You mean the 'equality act' puts those who uphold Catholic Tradition against those who do not.   

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    Re: Anyone know the distinction between "good gays and evil gays " ?
    « Reply #12 on: May 22, 2019, 03:50:24 AM »
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  • You mean the 'equality act' puts those who uphold Catholic Tradition against those who do not.  
    It’s not just “Catholic Tradition”, it’s against divine and natural law.

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    Re: Anyone know the distinction between "good gays and evil gays " ?
    « Reply #13 on: May 22, 2019, 04:48:36 AM »
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  • Didn’t I say that it is not absolutely certain that he is in Hell? Luther is treated by the Church as a lost soul, hence he wasn’t entitled to an ecclesiastical burial. I am 99.999% certain that he is in Hell and there is not one shred of evidence that he repented before he died. You make it seem like he had a decent chance to be saved.
    Well, poche probably believes, like his pope, that souls are just annihilated.  Therefore, Hell is empty.  ;)
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17

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    Re: Anyone know the distinction between "good gays and evil gays " ?
    « Reply #14 on: May 22, 2019, 10:33:46 PM »
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  • It’s not just “Catholic Tradition”, it’s against divine and natural law.
    Is there a conflict between divine and natural law and Catholic Tradition?

     

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