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Offline Jamie

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Antichrist Pope
« on: June 29, 2010, 08:29:52 PM »
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  • Hi all.

    I am just wondering if anyone can answer this question: could the antichrist be crowned Pope?

    He would obviously believe in Christ and all of the dogmas as he would have a supernatural knowledge they are true - but he hates them.  Could he become Pope and reign over the Church?

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    « Reply #1 on: June 29, 2010, 08:43:17 PM »
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  • Quote from: Jamie
    Hi all.

    I am just wondering if anyone can answer this question: could the antichrist be crowned Pope?

    He would obviously believe in Christ and all of the dogmas as he would have a supernatural knowledge they are true - but he hates them.  Could he become Pope and reign over the Church?


    I don't see how you could deny that the gates of Hell had prevailed if that were the case.


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    « Reply #2 on: June 29, 2010, 10:11:45 PM »
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  • An anti-Pope, yeah.
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    « Reply #3 on: June 30, 2010, 11:18:39 AM »
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  • I the anti-christ would prefer to be something like a god-emperor. I imagine he would have an anti-pope who would probably be the false prophet, but then it's likely that the false prophet is someone other than an anti-pope and would be some occult leader.
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    « Reply #4 on: June 30, 2010, 11:22:41 AM »
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  • I don't know.  I've never gotten a prophecy right yet, except in hindsight.  We do know satan wants everything that is God's including our worship.  He has his own people, his own book, his own church, etc.  Why not his own pope?
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    « Reply #5 on: June 30, 2010, 02:26:51 PM »
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  • St. Paul wrote that the son of perdition will sit in the temple of God. I have heard it claimed that this means that he will be a false Pope sitting on the throne of Peter. I think the Dimond brothers used to claim that John Paul II was the actual Antichrist.
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    « Reply #6 on: June 30, 2010, 02:43:50 PM »
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  • Maybe its not just one "pope" but a series of "popes" then St. Michael will come a slay the last one.     :dwarf:   :bob-marley:

    And then God will pick the last True pope and name him Peter.  :sheep:

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    « Reply #7 on: June 30, 2010, 02:54:27 PM »
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  • We foolish old crocks hope on, don't we?
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    « Reply #8 on: June 30, 2010, 03:08:59 PM »
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  • Catholic Samurai said:
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    I the anti-christ would prefer to be something like a god-emperor. I imagine he would have an anti-pope who would probably be the false prophet, but then it's likely that the false prophet is someone other than an anti-pope and would be some occult leader.


    I think you're right.  I think it would gall the Anti-Christ to have to hide behind the mantle of the papacy.  The whole point of the Anti-Christ is that this is like Satan revealing himself in the form of a man.  He wants to be worshiped in himself, not just twist the Catholic truth and be worshiped as a bad Pope.  

    We know he sits in the temple of God, which is wherever the Vatican is at that time.  It is not the Jewish temple, but the Vatican may very well be in Jerusalem.  At least one prophecy speaks of the Great Monarch dying there, so in all likelihood he reclaims it for Catholicism too.  Isn't he really the last and greatest Crusader, and wouldn't it make sense that he succeeds where the others failed?  

    We also know from the Apocalypse that Enoch and Elias preach in the city where Christ was crucified -- Jerusalem.  I think we can safely say, then, that Rome and Jerusalem will eventually coincide, and that the world itself ends in Jerusalem, as Michael and Christ come in splendor to burn the Earth and replace the perverted earthly Jerusalem with the heavenly one.

    So yeah, I think the Anti-Christ will be a Nero-type absolutely disgusting madman who sits, as it were, in the ruins of the Vatican, having reduced the Vatican to its pagan origins, with the false prophet as an anti-Pope.  The question is, if he is this evil, how can so many people fall for his tricks?  Well, first you have the false prophet who is the Merlin to his King Arthur.  Then he will be provided with all kinds of black magic to surround himself in mystery.  His true revolting nature will be kept private, except for his penchant for murdering and torture, but he will make people think that his violence is necessary to remove all the "heretics" -- who will be the real Catholics, namely Enoch and Elias and their followers.  They will be mangled and tormented in ways unheard of before.  It is through these hideous, stomach-turning torments that the Antichrist will reveal what a monstrous, sadistic pig he is, but the people will hate Enoch and Elias so much that they will think it is all justified.  

    Unfortunately, some of the tortures inflicted by Catholic governments in the past were pretty harsh themselves ( read about the death of Ravillac ), but the Antichrist's torments will go much further.  I used to watch a lot of horror films before being Catholic and I think the spirit of Anti-Christ is in those films, what is called "torture porn" films.  I don't want to repeat these tortures because I don't want to give anyone any ideas, but there are lots of vile ways to kill someone.
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    « Reply #9 on: June 30, 2010, 03:10:39 PM »
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    Maybe its not just one "pope" but a series of "popes" then St. Michael will come a slay the last one. :dwarf: :bob-marley:

    And then God will pick the last True pope and name him Peter.


    There is no Pope after Antichrist.  As you say, Christ Himself -- through Michael -- comes to destroy Antichrist.  After that, there is no need of a Pope, the King and Prince are our rulers forever after.
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    « Reply #10 on: June 30, 2010, 03:17:01 PM »
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  • Oh, oops.  Catholic Samurai had said that the false prophet would not be an anti-Pope.  And now that I think about it, that also strikes me as correct.  There will probably be nothing Catholic about Anti-Christ or those who serve him, the religion will be nearly destroyed by this time.
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    « Reply #11 on: June 30, 2010, 03:52:02 PM »
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  • Whoever it is, catholics are primed to accept anything and anyone no matter how bad.  It's all about luv and compassion.  The only group of people that they hold in complete horror and disdain are traditionals.




    Raoul said:  "...the religion will be nearly destroyed by this time."


    Isn't it already?

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    « Reply #12 on: July 07, 2010, 09:49:21 AM »
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  • Quote from: Jamie
    Hi all.

    I am just wondering if anyone can answer this question: could the antichrist be crowned Pope?

    He would obviously believe in Christ and all of the dogmas as he would have a supernatural knowledge they are true - but he hates them.  Could he become Pope and reign over the Church?

    Since the Antichrist will be a man, he will not be Satan himself. It is clearly understood the man will NOT have the divine virtue of Faith. Without Faith one can neither be a pope, nor a Catholic. A pope must be Catholic and have the divine virtue of Faith. He can be crowned, but he will just be the Antichrist with a crown on his head...not a pope.

    The article in the Catholic Encyclopedia gives argument that a false pope will be the Antichrist. The Antichrist will try to simulate Christ, and since a pope is the closest to that effect, he will seek to lead astray and destroy Catholics by being a false pope whom the majority of Catholics will think is real. The article mentions that St. Bernard believed the Antichrist would be a false pope.

    What better way to lead Catholics to perdition than to claim that even were the Antichrist a false pope, that we would have to consider him a true pope because we don't have the authority to make a judgment to the contrary!

    This is what the SSPX is leading Catholics to. The is what the sedevacantists are warning Catholics about. The SSPXers continuously run away from the arguments of the sedevacantists, while the SSPXers try to feel satisfied with their contradictions and dead-end arguments. The "operation of error" is setting in.

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    « Reply #13 on: July 07, 2010, 09:51:39 AM »
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  • well said Patman

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    « Reply #14 on: July 07, 2010, 09:51:47 AM »
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  • false Pope=false prophet perhaps
    antichrist=jew born in middle east and rises to power there, likely nuclear tipped nad USA supported Israel....
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