Author Topic: Antichrist Pope (Read 4506 times)

MyrnaM · « **Reply #30 on:** July 08, 2010, 11:17:53 PM »

Here I thought all along you were Elias and Joseph S. was Enoch. :whistleblower:

Dawn · « **Reply #31 on:** July 09, 2010, 05:56:18 AM »

What is this: Anaphora of Addai and Mari?

Belloc · « **Reply #32 on:** July 09, 2010, 07:19:20 AM »

Quote from: Raoul76

He also didn't have SSPX to stand in his way and tell him that he couldn't judge the Pope and that he had to stand idly by

Raoul-you were not yet born and definately not Catholic in the early to mid 70's, when there was no traditional group or people around to say the TLM,no one to hold to Tradition, so this shows a lack of insight and respect. ABL and the SSPX were the only group really out there to try to hold things together for us and offer some sanity. You were not there, did not have to live through it...

I see your broad brush attacks are still there-disagree a little and dismiss and denigrate them...

I hope when it is all over and done with, someone gives you more charity then you give the SSPX, Chesterton, P12...you find some faults and the next thing, the person or groups is evil and bad....

again, hindsight is 20/20, for those of us at the time, esp stuck in NO parishes that were being ransacked, the Society gave of us some, some point to rally at least......

Belloc · « **Reply #33 on:** July 09, 2010, 07:28:05 AM »

Quote from: Raoul76

JPII was probably born of a Jєω, Emilia Katz,

any proof to offer or mere conjecture? you and CM joked in the past about JP2 and the "hawk nosed" P11 if I recall right.

true, Assisi 1986 was a foreshadowing of the One World Religion of the AC...

but, proof the name above was JP2's? proof he was a Jєω? and if so, many Catholics had Jєωιѕн ancestery, like Torquemeda...

one has to first prove Jєωιѕн ancestry on the part of JP2 and then, prove he was influenced by тαℓмυdic beliefs.....my ancestors were pagans that built the megaliths in Scotland, but do I perform drudic rituals? D oI then bear the sin of paganism?

Must discern having Jєωιѕн ancestry from practice, for the Church is against what true antisemitsm is (as opposed to the hip buzz wording now used to attack, denigrate and shut down discussions)-antisemitism traditionally was a hatred of a Jєω and mistreatment of a Jєω based on race alone......those that accept the Fide are to be welcomed.

Organized тαℓмυdism and the Jєωιѕн take over we see today is to be opposed by any good Catholic.....

having Jєωιѕн blood is not sinful, acting/practicing like a тαℓмυdic-hence placing oneself outside of Christ-is

Belloc · « **Reply #34 on:** July 09, 2010, 07:34:56 AM »

Quote from: Patman

The Jєωs themselves are not unified, so this already throws a monkey wrench into it. I heard there was a Jєωιѕн Rabbi somewhere around Romania during the late 1930's who was going around proclaiming Adolf Hitler as the Jєωιѕн Messias!

um..Israel is a state with a huge military budget, nukes and billions a yr from the USA-often at the urging of Aipac and other Jєωιѕн groups...inc the rapturists zionists and other zionists....

Most Jєωs aroudn the world and esp in the "Lone superpower" support israel and the media, think tanks,et all shut down any discussion of the state of israel...the state actually can do almost anything they want with little critcisms and no reprecutions.....the USA blocks any attacks on isreal in the UN.....we pump billions to them yearly...

I think they pose and have posed a threat to peace and could-through the usa, press, Hollywood, etc...easily march toward domination militarily, with little to stop them-they are going to hit Iran, through usa's soldiers.

Plus, they have the finance and media largely controlled..

appears they are well on their way to controlling the world, by using others as proxies to fight and control.....

they are unified around the false charges leveled against "antisemites" and even to critcize the state of israel is to be labelled "anitsemite" and viciously attacked and treated as a hater monger....the few Jєωs that speak out, you do not normally see or hear from....they are labelled "self hating Jєωs"....

they are unfied and largely, have already won-so what if others do the fighting for them...no Catholic Social Order, hence the inverse, which is :devil2: Plan for Disorder.....

Belloc · « **Reply #35 on:** July 09, 2010, 07:37:34 AM »

Quote from: Patman

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Key word is CAN. The Anti-Christ CAN be a false Pope, but won't be. I think the Devil being elected as Pope is a bit over the top. That would not possibly be allowed by God. He could declare himself Pope, but he won't actually be elected Pope.

Where you go wrong is that the Antichrist will be a man, not the Devil. A man can be a false pope, and as St. Bernard believed, the Antichrist can very well be a papal claimant whom the majority follow, but who is really not a true pope.

and this is a nice way to "prove" the SV theory isnt it! Some desparete to prove that theory.. never mind the Protestants would love it-finally, they are vindicated that Pope=antichrist and Catholic Church=Whore of Babylon

thanks for scoring for them..

BTW-SSPX doctrinal errors? and they are...?

Matto · « **Reply #36 on:** July 09, 2010, 08:41:53 AM »

Quote from: Raoul76

St. Bernard was awesome . . . .

Bernard, as everyone should know, went and got Anacletus II deposed, a "Pope" who didn't even have one fraction of the strikes against him that these Freemasonic stooges of today have. . . .

Tell you what -- make me Pope, and I will come up with a reason why they were not Popes, I will sign it into law, and that will be that.

I did not know that St. Bernard had a Pope deposed, but I did know he was awesome. When I pray to St. Bernard, I am often overcome with strong emotions, and feel that he is really listening to my prayers and helping me in my troubles. This does not happen very often when I pray to other saints, just St. Bernard.

In the past, have not popes dug up the bodies of their predecessors, put them on trial, and annulled all their actions? I do not see why this cannot happen again.

Patman · « **Reply #37 on:** July 09, 2010, 10:54:36 AM »

Quote from: Belloc

Quote from: Patman
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Key word is CAN. The Anti-Christ CAN be a false Pope, but won't be. I think the Devil being elected as Pope is a bit over the top. That would not possibly be allowed by God. He could declare himself Pope, but he won't actually be elected Pope.

Where you go wrong is that the Antichrist will be a man, not the Devil. A man can be a false pope, and as St. Bernard believed, the Antichrist can very well be a papal claimant whom the majority follow, but who is really not a true pope.

and this is a nice way to "prove" the SV theory isnt it! Some desparete to prove that theory.. never mind the Protestants would love it-finally, they are vindicated that Pope=antichrist and Catholic Church=Whore of Babylon

thanks for scoring for them..

BTW-SSPX doctrinal errors? and they are...?

Belloc, try responding to my words. Anything wrong with those two sentences of mine that you were responding to?

Pope=antichrist? Where did you get that from? I said false pope=antichrist. You just turned what I said upside-down and then attempted to attribute it to me!

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #38 on:** July 09, 2010, 02:29:26 PM »

Quote from: Patman

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Key word is CAN. The Anti-Christ CAN be a false Pope, but won't be. I think the Devil being elected as Pope is a bit over the top. That would not possibly be allowed by God. He could declare himself Pope, but he won't actually be elected Pope.

Where you go wrong is that the Antichrist will be a man, not the Devil. A man can be a false pope, and as St. Bernard believed, the Antichrist can very well be a papal claimant whom the majority follow, but who is really not a true pope.

Where you go wrong is that the Anti-Christ will come in the form of a man but will be the Devil. Some research would come in handy.

Patman · « **Reply #39 on:** July 09, 2010, 03:05:33 PM »

From the article on Antichrist in the Catholic Encyclopedia:

"will not be a demon.... nor will he be the person of the devil incarnated in the human nature of Antichrist. He will be a human person"

Sigismund · « **Reply #40 on:** July 10, 2010, 01:46:16 PM »

Well, they would have to start actually crowning popes again :dancing: first.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #41 on:** July 10, 2010, 02:09:12 PM »

Well, never mind. I take back what I said about him actually being the Devil. He will be controlled by the Devil though!

Jamie · « **Reply #42 on:** July 10, 2010, 05:49:41 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Here's a few things I'd like to point out.

1.- No Pope ever has been the Anti-Christ and no Pope ever will be. The Anti-Christ will be a Jєω and will claim to be a Prophet or Christ Himself. He will lead the world into the occult. After he is destroyed the world will end and there will be no more Popes. Christ shall rule forever.

2.- There are rumors that Paul VI was the Anti-Christ but that can't be true. That doesn't mean Paul VI didn't support the religion of the Anti-Christ though. I can't judge what his thoughts were, but his actions indicated he may have very well supported the occult. Then again, it could have been a man who couldn't have qualified as Pope but was planted as Pope anyway. If that was the case, he would have been an Anti-Pope. I guess we won't know until we get to Heaven.

Actually this is what I was getting at initially - it seems of all the Popes that Paul VI did the real damage and the rest of them might be excused by the fact that they erroneously extend infallability to many of his wrong actions.

I think you are right that he wasn't the anti-christ but I think he was certainly in his service.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #43 on:** July 10, 2010, 08:05:26 PM »

Quote from: Jamie

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Here's a few things I'd like to point out.

1.- No Pope ever has been the Anti-Christ and no Pope ever will be. The Anti-Christ will be a Jєω and will claim to be a Prophet or Christ Himself. He will lead the world into the occult. After he is destroyed the world will end and there will be no more Popes. Christ shall rule forever.

2.- There are rumors that Paul VI was the Anti-Christ but that can't be true. That doesn't mean Paul VI didn't support the religion of the Anti-Christ though. I can't judge what his thoughts were, but his actions indicated he may have very well supported the occult. Then again, it could have been a man who couldn't have qualified as Pope but was planted as Pope anyway. If that was the case, he would have been an Anti-Pope. I guess we won't know until we get to Heaven.

Actually this is what I was getting at initially - it seems of all the Popes that Paul VI did the real damage and the rest of them might be excused by the fact that they erroneously extend infallability to many of his wrong actions.

I think you are right that he wasn't the anti-christ but I think he was certainly in his service.

True, I agree with you.

Patman · « **Reply #44 on:** July 14, 2010, 08:00:12 AM »

And so, the Antichrist will be a human being.

1) St. Bernard believed that for the Antichrist to be so successful with Catholics, he would be a false pope, deceiving them.

2) The SSPX have now separated from the belief of their founder, Archbishop Lefebvre, because he believed you could make the judgment that a papal claimant is not a true pope. The followers of neo-SSPX now live and breathe the opposite, and their children are immersed in it from their most formative years. They now condemn the sedevacantists for "judging" a man to not be a true pope.

The recipe for disaster, mixing 1 & 2. This paves the way for Catholics to hail the final Antichrist as "His Holiness"!