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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: crossbro on August 03, 2014, 12:22:21 AM
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Jesus was Jєωιѕн and his mother was Jєωιѕн.
The entire Bible was authored by Jews.
Nothing I can recall where Jesus abandoned Judaism.
So, where does the anti-Semitism from Christians come from ?
I am just curious.
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Without any fear of contradiction based upon fact the most competent and best qualified authorities all agree today that Jesus Christ was not a so-called or self-styled "Jew", They now confirm that during His lifetime Jesus was known as a "Judean" by His contemporaries and not as a "Jew", and that Jesus referred to Himself as a "Judean" and not as a "Jew". During His lifetime here on earth Jesus was referred to by contemporary historians as a "Judean" and not as a "Jew". Contemporary theologians of Jesus whose competence to pass upon this subject cannot be challenged by anyone today also referred to Jesus during his lifetime here on earth as a "Judean" and not as a "Jew".
- Facts Are Facts by Benjamin H. Freedman
continuing...
Inscribed upon the Cross when Jesus was Crucified were the Latin words "Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudeorum". Pontius Pilate was the author of that infamous inscription. Latin was Pontius Pilate's mother-tongue. No one will question the fact that Pontius Pilate was well able to accurately express his own ideas in his own mother-tongue. The authorities competent to pass upon the correct translation into English of the Latin "Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudeorum" agree that it is "Jesus the Nazarene Ruler of the Judeans". There is no disagreement upon that by them.
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Jesus was Jєωιѕн and his mother was Jєωιѕн.
The entire Bible was authored by Jews.
Nothing I can recall where Jesus abandoned Judaism.
So, where does the anti-Semitism from Christians come from ?
I am just curious.
Jesus is the founder of Catholicism and redemptor of the world, not Jєωιѕн
You can't recall Jesus abandoning Judaism? Are you sure you are even a christian? I don't even know where to start with that one, ..."Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill" He didn't destroy 'Judaism' but it was supplanted or abrogated by Fulfilling it, by bringing about the one true religion of his Father, God which is the teachings of Jesus and passed down to his Apostles and passed down to the Popes.
I'm sure many more people have much more examples and things to talk about regarding this statement you made.
And what anti-semitism are you talking about? Catholic doctrine is exclusionist, unless you believe in NO church, Catholics are anti-Jew,anti-muslim,anti-pagan, anti-heretic
And there isn't even any Judaism around today, there is only rabbinic judaism most of which denies almost every aspect of Judaism of Jesus' time and most jews are not even semetic....
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Nothing I can recall where Jesus abandoned Judaism.
So, where does the anti-Semitism from Christians come from ?
I am just curious.
Don't you know what тαℓмυdic Judaism is?
"anti-Semitism" is just one of those knock-down terms used to silence opposition. The Catholics who speak out against Judaics are not speaking out against a race of people, but the idea behind Judaism. The two can be separated.
If you do not think that Judaism can be separate from the Jєωιѕн ethnicity, then you are more racist than most.
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Jesus was Jєωιѕн and his mother was Jєωιѕн.
The entire Bible was authored by Jews.
Nothing I can recall where Jesus abandoned Judaism.
So, where does the anti-Semitism from Christians come from ?
I am just curious.
Jesus is the founder of Catholicism and redemptor of the world, not Jєωιѕн
You can't recall Jesus abandoning Judaism? Are you sure you are even a christian?
Crossbro has been brainwashed by heretics such as Pat Robertson.
Btw--Hirsch's above post just earned him his first thumbs-up from me in months. I may have to take a look at his rag (a/k/a The Blog) if he posts a few more sensible things.
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Jesus was Jєωιѕн and his mother was Jєωιѕн.
The entire Bible was authored by Jews.
Nothing I can recall where Jesus abandoned Judaism.
So, where does the anti-Semitism from Christians come from ?
I am just curious.
Jesus is the founder of Catholicism and redemptor of the world, not Jєωιѕн
You can't recall Jesus abandoning Judaism? Are you sure you are even a christian?
Crossbro has been brainwashed by heretics such as Pat Robertson.
Btw--Hirsch's above post just earned him his first thumbs-up from me in months. I may have to take a look at his rag (a/k/a The Blog) if he posts a few more sensible things.
Looks like the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
I heard that line somewhere and thought it would be appropriate.
:cheers:
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Some silly replies here and let me quickly prove it.
After Jesus was crucified the early Christians remained in the ѕуηαgσgυєs until they were excommunicated around 70AD.
So, in fact, the very people who knew Jesus first hand remained Jєωιѕн and Catholic. Mary the Mother of God remained in the ѕуηαgσgυє.
The early Christians went to ѕуηαgσgυє on Saturday as required by Jєωιѕн Law and went to Church on Sunday up until they were excommunicated.
The first Christians, from Jesus on were both Christian and Jєωιѕн. Paul in fact was a Jєωιѕн rabbi.
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Some silly replies here and let me quickly prove it.
After Jesus was crucified the early Christians remained in the ѕуηαgσgυєs until they were excommunicated around 70AD.
So, in fact, the very people who knew Jesus first hand remained Jєωιѕн and Catholic. Mary the Mother of God remained in the ѕуηαgσgυє.
The early Christians went to ѕуηαgσgυє on Saturday as required by Jєωιѕн Law and went to Church on Sunday up until they were excommunicated.
The first Christians, from Jesus on were both Christian and Jєωιѕн. Paul in fact was a Jєωιѕн rabbi.
It's high time you cite some sources on this one.
UPDATE: Also...aren't you aware that тαℓмυdic Judaism has nothing to do with Christianity? It is a synthesis of everything the Judaics despise about Christendom, and it came together around 300 AD? Did you know that? I ask because you evaded my first question, when I asked you if you knew what тαℓмυdic Judaism is.
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Crossbro, you said you are "curious" as to "where does the anti-Semitism from Christians come from ?"
I'll take you at your word.
Ignoring the long history of Jєωιѕн financial depredation across many countries and cultures, and also ignoring the long history of ritual murders of Christian children by psychotic Jews (likely a minority practice but always defended by Jewry as a whole), and ignoring the long history of Jєωιѕн revolutionary overthrow of Christian societies, let's dip into the тαℓмυd and see what the Elders of Zion have to say about Christ and his mother with other assorted bits of lunacy.
“...Jesus shares his place in the Netherworld (hell) with Titus and Balaam, the notorious arch enemies of the Jєωιѕн people. Whereas Titus is punished for the destruction of the Temple by being burned to ashes, reassembled, and burned over and over again, and whereas Balaam is castigated by sitting in hot semen, Jesus’ fate consists of sitting forever in boiling excrement.” —Peter Schäfer, Jesus in the тαℓмυd (Princeton University Press), p. 13. BT Gittin 57a.
Mary, the Mother of Jesus, was a prostitute. —BT Sanhedrin 106b. BT Sanhedrin 67a. Shabbath 104b.
All gentile women without exception are: “Niddah, Shifchah, Goyyah and Zonah” (menstrual filth, slaves, heathens and prostitutes). —BT Sanhedrin 81b - 82a.
BT Kiddushin 66c: “The best of the gentiles: kill him; the best of snakes: smash its skull; the best of women: is filled with witchcraft.” The uncensored version of this text appears in Tractate Soferim (New York, M. Higer, 1937), 15:7, p. 282.
Rabbinic authorities decree that a building set aside for actual (rather than feigned) worship of Jesus Christ is a house of avodah zarah. —Yayin Malchus, 234-237. Minchas Elazar 1:53-3. Yechaveh Da'as 4:45. Darchei Teshuvah 150:2. Tzitz Eliezer 14:91.
Therefore, when passing a church they utter a curse upon it as follows: “Beis gee'im visach Hashem.” —Birkath ha-Minim, 12th Amidah. BT Berakhot 58b.
Only Jews are human. Non-Jews are not human. —BT Bava Metzia 114b. BT Kerithoth 6b and 58a.
Regarding a Jew stealing from a non-Jew, the act is permitted. — BT Sanhedrin 57a.
Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circuмvent a gentile.
—BT Baba Kamma 113a.
If a Jew is tempted to do evil, he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there. —BT Moed Kattan 17a.
It was a Jєωιѕн convert, Nicholas Donin, who informed the Church of what the Jews' тαℓмυd contained. Circa 1230. People should find Michael Hoffman's Judaism's Strange Gods (http://revisionisthistorystore.blogspot.com/2010/03/michael-hoffmans-online-revisionist.html). His site has other works on this important subject.
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Paul in fact was a Jєωιѕн rabbi.
It's high time you cite some sources on this one.
It is in the Bible, in the book of Acts.
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crossbro, I have a question for you. Do you think Jews can get to heaven without converting to Catholicism?
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It is in the Bible, in the book of Acts.
Cite it exactly. Copy and paste the exact sentences that convince you that Jesus Christ's apostles were Judaics.
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Anti-Semitism is just a code word for anti-Christ, anti-Catholic, and
anti conversion of the Jews to Christianity. Also against all truths
of the Catholic Religion and its salvation message to all men including
the Jews. More they knowable sin, more they blind themselves against
the truth and more they guarantee their eternal damnation.
Since they know some aspect of the truth, their damnation will
along with the bad Catholic will be much :incense: worse.
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Some silly replies here ...
While I agree your replies are silly, to the topic at hand; Saint Paul's father was a Pharisee, of the tribe of Benjamin -
The Acts of the Apostles 23:6 And Paul knowing that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, cried out in the council: Men, brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of Pharisees
At the same time, we know that his father was also a Roman citizen.
Saint Paul was to study to become a Rabbi, but before this, as was the custom, he had to take up a profession; In this case he took up the common profession of making tents, he studied under rabbi Gamaliel, and prior to his conversion he was likely a member of the Sanhedrin.
With his conversion, he became a champion of Christ, and as we will no doubt agree, one of Christ's Apostles.
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Why does not someone link us to John Hagee so that we can get the true teaching about the Jews. crossbro has brought us more than halfway there with his Judaized Novus Ordo teaching about them.
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Judaism equals to Naturalism and therefore, clearly opposes the Reign of Christ the King, our True Supernatural Messiah. Judaism WILL oppose all influence of the Supernatural Life of the Mystical Body of Christ in society everywhere and at all times as we have seen since the very beginning. The Jєωιѕн nation are a ferment of anti-Christianity because of its ruthless pursuit of the "Messianic" domination of their race throughout the world and their hopes of an earthly kingdom, which is NOT Our Lord's kingdom.
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It is in the Bible, in the book of Acts.
Cite it exactly. Copy and paste the exact sentences that convince you that Jesus Christ's apostles were Judaics.
The last time you were online in this thread, it was the afternoon.
I will assume that the afternoon is when you get online, and I'll wait until tomorrow for your answer. Any further silence or doging of my question, and I'll know that you are trying to dodge the facts of this discussion.
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Crossbro, you asked where the "anti-semitism" came from and I provided a list of filthy items from the тαℓмυd. Waiting for your commentary.
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Judaism equals to Naturalism and therefore, clearly opposes the Reign of Christ the King, our True Supernatural Messiah. Judaism WILL oppose all influence of the Supernatural Life of the Mystical Body of Christ in society everywhere and at all times as we have seen since the very beginning. The Jєωιѕн nation are a ferment of anti-Christianity because of its ruthless pursuit of the "Messianic" domination of their race throughout the world and their hopes of an earthly kingdom, which is NOT Our Lord's kingdom.
This ^
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The results of Jєωιѕн opposition to the Divine Plan may be summed up as follows: "if we know consider the position of the Jєωιѕн nation to the Mystical Body of Christ since Calvary, we shall find it codified and crystallized, so to say, in the тαℓмυd and the Kabbala. The тαℓмυd contains, chiefly but not exclusively, the deviations from the order of the world in regards to the organization of society (social life). The terrible pride of Jєωιѕн race, due to their having lowered and corrupted the idea of the mission to which God has called them, is very visible therein.
While the тαℓмυd represents the codification of Jєωιѕн opposition to the priesthood of Christ. In the latter, we see chiefly but not exclusively the divagations from order which have arisen among the Jews, with regard to mystical union with God and spiritual life, owing to their persistent want of submission to God and to Jesus Christ Whom He has sent. The refusal to accept the Divine Life offered by Our Lord has resulted in the deification of the natural powers of man. The Kabbala furnishes the key to the Pantheism of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, Theosophy, and the other occult societies which promise to reveal the secrets of a higher life to their adepts.
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Crossbro, you are ignoring the contents of the тαℓмυd which I posted.
Do you prefer to ignore them or do you make excuse for them?
Here are the samples again:
“...Jesus shares his place in the Netherworld (hell) with Titus and Balaam, the notorious arch enemies of the Jєωιѕн people. Whereas Titus is punished for the destruction of the Temple by being burned to ashes, reassembled, and burned over and over again, and whereas Balaam is castigated by sitting in hot semen, Jesus’ fate consists of sitting forever in boiling excrement.” —Peter Schäfer, Jesus in the тαℓмυd (Princeton University Press), p. 13. BT Gittin 57a.
Mary, the Mother of Jesus, was a prostitute. —BT Sanhedrin 106b. BT Sanhedrin 67a. Shabbath 104b.
All gentile women without exception are: “Niddah, Shifchah, Goyyah and Zonah” (menstrual filth, slaves, heathens and prostitutes). —BT Sanhedrin 81b - 82a.
BT Kiddushin 66c: “The best of the gentiles: kill him; the best of snakes: smash its skull; the best of women: is filled with witchcraft.” The uncensored version of this text appears in Tractate Soferim (New York, M. Higer, 1937), 15:7, p. 282.
Rabbinic authorities decree that a building set aside for actual (rather than feigned) worship of Jesus Christ is a house of avodah zarah. —Yayin Malchus, 234-237. Minchas Elazar 1:53-3. Yechaveh Da'as 4:45. Darchei Teshuvah 150:2. Tzitz Eliezer 14:91.
Therefore, when passing a church they utter a curse upon it as follows: “Beis gee'im visach Hashem.” —Birkath ha-Minim, 12th Amidah. BT Berakhot 58b.
Only Jews are human. Non-Jews are not human. —BT Bava Metzia 114b. BT Kerithoth 6b and 58a.
Regarding a Jew stealing from a non-Jew, the act is permitted. — BT Sanhedrin 57a.
Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circuмvent a gentile.
—BT Baba Kamma 113a.
If a Jew is tempted to do evil, he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there. —BT Moed Kattan 17a.
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Crossbro, you are ignoring the contents of the тαℓмυd which I posted.
It is irrelevant to the question.
Reread the question in the OP.
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Crossbro, you artful dodger, you. :roll-laugh1:
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Jesus was Jєωιѕн and his mother was Jєωιѕн.
The entire Bible was authored by Jews.
Nothing I can recall where Jesus abandoned Judaism.
So, where does the anti-Semitism from Christians come from ?
I am just curious.
Crossbro, you are ignoring the contents of the тαℓмυd which I posted.
It is irrelevant to the question.
Reread the question in the OP.
Oh, give me a break! You are so insincere and such a fake.
You say that Jesus did not abandon Judaism, and you ask why people are "anti-Semitic?"
People in this thread answer you, telling you exactly what can be found in the тαℓмυd, and you ignore it and pretend that it does not matter. Judaics follow the тαℓмυd. We have told you what is in it. The тαℓмυd is against Christianity. Blatantly. Hence, the Christians on this forum are against Judaics.
Of course, you like to perhaps blur the lines and sort of equate the Judaics' тαℓмυdic beliefs with their ethnicity, hence the passive aggressive slur, accusing critics on here as αnтι-ѕємιтєs. How convenient to have a word like "Jew" that can be bent to whatever you need it to be.
Still waiting for that passage from the book of Acts, by the way.
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Jesus was Jєωιѕн and his mother was Jєωιѕн.
The entire Bible was authored by Jews.
Nothing I can recall where Jesus abandoned Judaism.
So, where does the anti-Semitism from Christians come from ?
I am just curious.
Crossbro, you are ignoring the contents of the тαℓмυd which I posted.
It is irrelevant to the question.
Reread the question in the OP.
Oh, give me a break! You are so insincere and such a fake.
You say that Jesus did not abandon Judaism, and you ask why people are "anti-Semitic?"
People in this thread answer you, telling you exactly what can be found in the тαℓмυd, and you ignore it and pretend that it does not matter. Judaics follow the тαℓмυd. We have told you what is in it. The тαℓмυd is against Christianity. Blatantly. Hence, the Christians on this forum are against Judaics.
Of course, you like to perhaps blur the lines and sort of equate the Judaics' тαℓмυdic beliefs with their ethnicity, hence the passive aggressive slur, accusing critics on here as αnтι-ѕємιтєs. How convenient to have a word like "Jew" that can be bent to whatever you need it to be.
Still waiting for that passage from the book of Acts, by the way.
I expect Crossbro is shying away from your question because he's relying on quips from protestants and he's already getting a lot of heat for how deep he's mired into protestantism. I know I've bashed him a lot lately. But I hope for the sake of his soul that he ceases his curiosity & flirtations with protestantism. I view him as a casualty of V-II/NO as I myself almost was for a time.
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Here is a quote for him, "anti-Semitism is of the Jews"
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I asked where the empowerment came from.
Not quotes from the тαℓмυd.
Stay on topic.
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For you, brethren, are become followers of the churches of God which are in Judea, in Christ Jesus: for you also have suffered the same things from your own coutrymen, even as they have from the Jews, Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men.
1 Thessalonians 2:14-15
I know that you are the children of Abraham: but you seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and you do the things that you have seen with your father. They answered, and said to him: Abraham is our father. Jesus saith to them: If you be the children of Abraham, do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill me, a man who have spoken the truth to you, which I have heard of God. This Abraham did not.
You do the works of your father. They said therefore to him: We are not born of fornication: we have one Father, even God. Jesus therefore said to them: If God were your Father, you would indeed love me. For from God I proceeded, and came; for I came not of myself, but he sent me: Why do you not know my speech? Because you cannot hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof. But if I say the truth, you believe me not. St John 8:37-45
Does that answer your question, Crossbro?
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I asked where the empowerment came from.
Not quotes from the тαℓмυd.
Stay on topic.
Stay on topic? Are you kidding me? You are the one straying from your own original post. Nowhere in your OP do you ask anything about "empowerment."
You ask:
So, where does the anti-Semitism from Christians come from ?
And then you smugly ask:
I am just curious.
The only place you mention empowerment is in the thread title, in which you ask a question, and then you answer your own question.
Anti-Semitism: Where is the empowerment..., ..from Jesus.
You are evasive and insincere.
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To anyone else reading this thread, here is something more substantial. I doubt crossbro, at this rate, would be interested in reading it, seeing as how details seem too elusive.
http://www.voxday.blogspot.com/2014/08/and-why-might-that-be.html
And why might that be?
Charles Krauthammer, an American Jew, laments the resurgence of world anti-semitism. And yet, neither he nor anyone else ever seems to ask the obvious question: why is it resurging now? Are we expected to believe that it is a complete coincidence that various peoples around the world suddenly appear to have developed, apropos of nothing at all, a sudden and simultaneous dislike for a relatively small group of people?
[T]he other problem for Israel has been the inability to win over public opinion around the world. “The rest of the world's reaction to what's happening in Gaza is Orwellian,” Krauthammer said. “It is shocking, especially in Europe. It is a resurgence of anti-Semitism not seen since the `30s, this is a recurrence, it's all over the world, and don't tell me its anti-Zionism. You listen to the slogan, you see the sign, Hitler was right in Germany, a sign in Germany saying that this is a veneer that is a front for anti-Semitism and it is back. It's all over the world. And that's what we're now beginning to face.
I've been warning of this resurgence for several years now, as I picked up the first signs of it during the 2008 financial crisis. Now that it's being mentioned in the mainstream media, perhaps more people will begin to take the matter seriously. The first thing people have to understand is that emo-posturing and affecting shock and horror accomplishes absolutely nothing. The guilt trip simply doesn't work anymore and it's time to abandon the h0Ɩ0cαųstian dodge. The Shoah wasn't the worstey worstest event in human history; far worse genocides, both in terms of absolute numbers and percentages of the people being targeted, have occurred since. It's not even the worst thing to have happened to the people of Israel in their history, 11/12 being considerably more than half.
One would do well to reflect upon why the Roman treatment of the Jews was so much harsher than their treatment of nearly every other people they conquered from Britain to Egypt, aside from the Carthaginians. Were the Romans mysteriously anti-semitic too or did the Jews manage to upset them in some manner? Regardless, the fact that nearly everyone with any direct experience of the Endlosung is now dead, combined with the fact that the world is considerably less Eurocentric than it was, means that virtually no one gives a damn about the h0Ɩ0cαųst anymore. That card is played out.
Try it on the Chinese. Or the Cambodians. You're going to expect tears, cash, and prizes for six million people killed during the biggest war on the planet seven decades ago when the Chinese more recently offed eight times that many of their own people over nothing more than resource allocation and lunatic political theory? Ask the average half-illiterate 80-IQ American public school student about the h0Ɩ0cαųst and he's as likely to think it has something to do with slavery or Palestine as World War II.
Another American Jew, Richard Cohen, is aware of perspectives changing: "A recent survey by the Pew Research Center found that among Americans age 65 or older, 53 percent blame Hamas for the violence and 15 percent Israel. For those ages 18 to 29, Israel is blamed by 29 percent of those questioned, Hamas by just 21 percent."
Second, understand that the resurgence of anti-semitism is happening for a reason. What that reason may be is up for discussion, but not that logic dictates its existence. Anti-semitism can be irrational but it is not always so, and pretending otherwise is both disingenuous and futile. The world knows what Ben Bernanke did last summer, so to speak. The world knows who is funding President Goldman Sachs and it understands why the head of a petty state in the Middle East can tell him off and expect him to fall in line. The world knows that the U.S. Congress is Israeli-occupied territory. The world knows who owns Hollywood, the U.S. media, and the bailed-out banks. The world knows who has been flooding its nations with third-world barbarians who don't even understand the concept of indoor plumbing.
And the world doesn't like it. Not one little bit. Actions have consequences; the problem is that the consequences are not always proportionate.
It's absolutely useless to try to continue hiding behind claims of Jєωιѕн wonderfulness, supercapability and work ethos. First, virtually no one buys it. Too many of us know how the game is played; too many of us have seen incompetent, inept, and lazy Jews advanced in tribal fashion over far more capable, competent, and responsible Gentiles. Too many of us observe that Germany and China appear to be doing rather well these days despite lacking the benefit of Jєωιѕн guidance. Second, and much more importantly, no one cares why.
Does this mean that I endorse this rising tide of anti-semitism? No, of course not, otherwise I wouldn't have warned Jews of it in the first place. If I were anti-semitic, I would smile like a helpful SS-Totenkopfverbände officer meeting a train and tell every nervous Krauthammer and Cohen on board not to worry, everything is just fine, everything is in order, isn't it shocking that some of those terrible animals in the Holy Land can't seem to get over their irrational hatreds of your wonderful people!
But I understand why the hatred exists and I know that it is, to a certain extent, merited. It observably is. Jews don't have to like that fact, they don't even have to accept it, but they will have to deal with it nevertheless. And I also suspect that the growing hatred is going to get out of hand as the global economy worsens, that the innocent will be caught up in the angry tide along with the red-handed guilty.
The idea that post-nationalism and demographic divide-and-conquer would make the Jews in America safer was intrinsically wrong, as wrong as the idea that amassing vast wealth and political influence serves as an effective form of community protection for a small minority. People like helpless refugees. People rather like grateful immigrants who settle quietly in their own communities and gradually integrate over time. People hate rich people who tell them what to do. And people really, really hate rich and powerful foreigners with supremacy complexes who tell them what to do while settling criminally-inclined aliens in their neighborhoods.
In successfully attacking the white Anglo-Saxon Protestant nature of America, Jews destroyed the American exceptionalism that offered them protection. Now that it is essentially gone, Jews have not only lost a reliable Gentile shield against global anti-semitism, but aside from Christian Zionists like Sarah Palin who fly the flag of Israel in their churches, the white Anglo-Saxons who previously defended them are no longer much inclined to do so. And, contra Spengler, I very much doubt that the Chinese are likely to serve as an adequate substitute for white American Christians. Reflect on what the Han have done to the peaceful, harmless people of Tibet and then think about how well they are likely respond to tribal gamesmanship.
You can argue if you like. You can call me names if you like. You'll hardly be the first. But look at it logically: if anti-semitism is like the weather or cancer, then the world will just have to suffer it forever without much hope of anything changing until such time as the Jews finally go the way of the Amalekites. My perspective is actually the optimistic one, because if the rise in anti-semitism is largely a rational reaction to material Jєωιѕн actions, it should be possible to avoid its most dangerous forms, outside of those implacable sentiments genuinely inspired by the ongoing territorial conflict in the Middle East.
If you seek pro-Israeli propaganda, you'll have to go elsewhere. If you wish to read anti-semitic rantings, this isn't the place to find them. On this controversial subject, as with all others, I am only interested in the truth and its probable ramifications for the future. If I am incorrect, by all means, feel free to show me how and I will modify my thinking. But if you have nothing but groundless assertions and fervent personal opinions to offer, you needn't bother.
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I asked where the empowerment came from.
Not quotes from the тαℓмυd.
Stay on topic.
The empowerment comes from non-Jews natural response to the noxious and subversive activities of international Jewry.
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Stay on topic? Are you kidding me? You are the one straying from your own original post. Nowhere in your OP do you ask anything about "empowerment."
The topic of this thread is what ?
Anti-Semitism: Where is the empowerment..., ..from Jesus.
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your answer is here...
http://www.kingshipofchrist.org/dl/Kingship-of-Christ-Rev-Denis-Fahey-Dublin.pdf
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Jesus was Jєωιѕн and his mother was Jєωιѕн.
The entire Bible was authored by Jews.
Nothing I can recall where Jesus abandoned Judaism.
So, where does the anti-Semitism from Christians come from ?
I am just curious.
It comes when the political leadership is unable to com up with a viable solution to the problems that plague the society. Find somebody or some group to blame that cannot hit you back. In Venezuala Chavez used the United States. Here the Republicans use the illegal aliens.
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Jesus was Jєωιѕн and his mother was Jєωιѕн.
The entire Bible was authored by Jews.
Nothing I can recall where Jesus abandoned Judaism.
So, where does the anti-Semitism from Christians come from ?
I am just curious.
It comes when the political leadership is unable to com up with a viable solution to the problems that plague the society. Find somebody or some group to blame that cannot hit you back. In Venezuala Chavez used the United States. Here the Republicans use the illegal aliens.
Barf on both of you.
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Stay on topic? Are you kidding me? You are the one straying from your own original post. Nowhere in your OP do you ask anything about "empowerment."
The topic of this thread is what ?
Anti-Semitism: Where is the empowerment..., ..from Jesus.
Your question smacks of heresy and dishonesty.
Heresy because it implicitly states that only a quotation from the lips of Our Lord Himself will suffice as authoritative to you (which reeks of the Protestantism which you admit to exposing yourself to - as does you cavalier, contemptuously familiar overuse of Our Lord's Blessed Name).
Dishonesty because of your use of the phrase "Anti-Semitism," which connotes a purely racial hatred of Jews and other groups of Semitic origin (like Arabs, you may be surprised to learn), which no one here is arguing in favor of. We hold to the Traditional Catholic practice of Anti-Judaism. We oppose the Jews purely on religious grounds, not on racial concepts that date no further back than the 19th Century. Our desire for Jews is that they convert to the Catholic Faith. A Jew who truly converts to the Catholic Faith (which obviously excludes Marranos who convert only outwardly but secretly still practice Judaism) is a Jew no longer and is welcomed by us as a brother or sister Catholic, no differently than a Catholic of any other racial stock. Such would never be the case among true "αnтι-ѕємιтєs."
But if it's only the Words from Our Lord's lips that will satisfy you, then read and be satisfied:
Wherefore you are witnesses against yourselves, that you are the sons of them that killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. You serpents, generation of vipers, how will you flee from the judgment of hell? Therefore behold I send to you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them you will put to death and crucify, and some you will scourge in your ѕуηαgσgυєs, and persecute from city to city: That upon you may come all the just blood that hath been shed upon the earth, from the blood of Abel the just, even unto the blood of Zacharias the son of Barachias, whom you killed between the temple and the altar.
Amen I say to you, all these things shall come upon this generation. Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered together thy children, as the hen doth gather her chickens under her wings, and thou wouldest not? Behold, your house shall be left to you, desolate. For I say to you, you shall not see me henceforth till you say: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
St Matthew xxiii:xxxi-xxxix
But as for those my enemies, who would not have me reign over them, bring them hither, and kill them before me.
St Luke xix:xxvii
I know that you are the children of Abraham: but you seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and you do the things that you have seen with your father. They answered, and said to him: Abraham is our father. Jesus saith to them: If you be the children of Abraham, do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill me, a man who have spoken the truth to you, which I have heard of God. This Abraham did not.
You do the works of your father. They said therefore to him: We are not born of fornication: we have one Father, even God. Jesus therefore said to them: If God were your Father, you would indeed love me. For from God I proceeded, and came; for I came not of myself, but he sent me: Why do you not know my speech? Because you cannot hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof. But if I say the truth, you believe me not.
St John 8:37-45
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Stay on topic? Are you kidding me? You are the one straying from your own original post. Nowhere in your OP do you ask anything about "empowerment."
The topic of this thread is what ?
Anti-Semitism: Where is the empowerment..., ..from Jesus.
Again...nonsense.
The title of your thread is a question...which you answer in the sub-title of the thread.
The meat of what you are saying is in the original post. You ask a question in your original post that has been answered several times by different people. But you ignore the details of these people's answers. It is very insincere.
You really are spinning the hell out of what you claim your intentions are.
And as you know, I'm not usually one to call someone out like this or pick on someone. You haven't acknowledged a single thing that has been said to you. I'll bet you haven't read a thing that I've said, nor what BTNYC has said.
...which is why I try not to have reasoned conversations on the internet.
Did you even have enough of an attention span to get to the end of this post?
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crossbro,
So, where does the anti-Semitism from Christians come from ?
Please use the proper terms. Christian resistance to the Jew, is justifiable anti -Judaism. Anti-semitism is a Jєωιѕн concept, and one which is used to slander the Christian who is hostile to the ѕуηαgσgυє. (which all Christians should be)
You know, you need to stand with the Swiss Guard, and not with the Temple Guard, if you are Catholic. There is no in between.