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Anti-Pope Frank on sodomite parents!
« on: June 27, 2014, 02:06:40 PM »
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  • Edit: This is from back in January but I stand by my comment below.

    I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that Frank is not the Pope.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/05/pope-francis-gαy-parents-_n_4542026.html

    Pope Francis Calls For Catholic Church Re-Think On gαy Parents



    Pope Francis warned against "administering a vaccine against faith" in a surprise plea for children of gαy couples and divorced parents, the AFP is reporting.

    "On an educational level, gαy unions raise challenges for us today which for us are sometimes difficult to understand," Francis was quoted by a number of media outlets as having said in a November speech to the Catholic Union of Superiors General. "The number of children in schools whose parents have separated is very high."

    He then added: "I remember a case in which a sad little girl confessed to her teacher: 'my mother's girlfriend doesn't love me' ... how can we proclaim Christ to a generation that is changing?"

    However, the Vatican quickly shot down reports that the pope's comments were evidence of his support for same-sex unions in Italy, Reuters pointed out.

    The pontiff's latest remarks follow end-of-year praise he received from a number of media outlets with regard to his stance on the lesbian, gαy, bisɛҳuąƖ and transgender (LGBT) community.

    Last month, The Advocate named Pope Francis its 2013 "Person of the Year," though the distinction ruffled more than a few feathers among LGBT rights advocates.

    Many pointed to the Pope's July comments about ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in the context of a question about gαy friends, according to the Wall Street Journal.

    "Who am I to judge a gαy person of goodwill who seeks the Lord?" the pontiff said at the time, speaking in Italian. "You can't marginalize these people."

    "Pope Francis is still not pro-gαy by today's standard," wrote Lucas Grindley of The Advocate. "The pope's impact isn't on whether we're deciding to sit in the pews, it's on the people who are already in the pews. More so, it's on the devoted who are there every Sunday plus the middle of the week and who volunteer for charity work and who are sometimes our most ardent opposition."


    Offline obertray imondday

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    Anti-Pope Frank on sodomite parents!
    « Reply #1 on: June 29, 2014, 10:35:37 AM »
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  • It is easy to see how the beast gets it's power. God permits these evil spirits to possess these men and then God lets the devil move them up to high places. The elect could not be deceived if they were not a line of false popes.


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    « Reply #2 on: June 30, 2014, 03:31:14 AM »
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  • "Who am I to judge a gαy person of goodwill who seeks the Lord?" the pontiff said at the time, speaking in Italian. "You can't marginalize these people."

    A person of goodwill who seeks the Lord is a person who is repentant of their sins, Who are we to block the door of the Church or the confessional to the sinner who wants to come in?

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    Anti-Pope Frank on sodomite parents!
    « Reply #3 on: June 30, 2014, 05:24:37 AM »
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  • Quote from: poche
    "Who am I to judge a gαy person of goodwill who seeks the Lord?" the pontiff said at the time, speaking in Italian. "You can't marginalize these people."

    A person of goodwill who seeks the Lord is a person who is repentant of their sins, Who are we to block the door of the Church or the confessional to the sinner who wants to come in?


    The question is what kind of spirit seeks to give "equal rights" to people exhibiting demonic behaviors and who have NO PLACE in Christ whatsoever –de fide?

    And who are we to block doors? Padre Pio blocked some doors ---to the confessional of improperly-clad women; not even you could claim Padre Pio would have embraced any fag showing up with lipstick and a short skirt who claimed to have the soul of a woman.

    One lung is a secular humanist, at best (and I fear that's giving him FAR too much credit). There were probably LOTS of those in Sodom, right before God blew it to Hell off the earth.
    Legem credendi, lex statuit supplicandi

    +JMJ

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    « Reply #4 on: June 30, 2014, 06:34:20 AM »
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  • so sick of the "who am i to judge" talk. People judge themself by the action and words they do. There is no such thing as a gαy person that is a sodomite.

    Since Bergoglio calls a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ a gαy person he judges himself. Wo to them that call evil good. It is the hope that all ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs will have the curse of God lifted off of them and they repent.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 30, 2014, 09:50:34 AM »
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    administering a vaccine against faith


    Against what faith ?

    Saint Paul told us not to associate with the sɛҳuąƖly immoral and unrepentant gαys were included in that category.

    So, I don't know what faith francis is a member of, but I follow the teachings of the leader of the Church who was empowered by Jesus in the flesh. I follow the faith of Jesus- not the faith of the false preacher francis I.

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    « Reply #6 on: June 30, 2014, 07:57:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: poche
    "Who am I to judge a gαy person of goodwill who seeks the Lord?" the pontiff said at the time, speaking in Italian. "You can't marginalize these people."

    A person of goodwill who seeks the Lord is a person who is repentant of their sins, Who are we to block the door of the Church or the confessional to the sinner who wants to come in?


    Poche... there is no such thing as a gαy person.  Humans are heterosɛҳuąƖ!

    God could no more create a square circle than a gαy person! Even if someone is/was guilty of unnatural vices it doesn't change their nature.  

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    « Reply #7 on: June 30, 2014, 11:14:35 PM »
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    Quote from: poche
    "Who am I to judge a gαy person of goodwill who seeks the Lord?" the pontiff said at the time, speaking in Italian. "You can't marginalize these people."

    A person of goodwill who seeks the Lord is a person who is repentant of their sins, Who are we to block the door of the Church or the confessional to the sinner who wants to come in?


    The question is what kind of spirit seeks to give "equal rights" to people exhibiting demonic behaviors and who have NO PLACE in Christ whatsoever –de fide?

    And who are we to block doors? Padre Pio blocked some doors ---to the confessional of improperly-clad women; not even you could claim Padre Pio would have embraced any fag showing up with lipstick and a short skirt who claimed to have the soul of a woman.

    One lung is a secular humanist, at best (and I fear that's giving him FAR too much credit). There were probably LOTS of those in Sodom, right before God blew it to Hell off the earth.

    padre Pio blocked the doors to the confessional to people who had badwill. If I ahd his gift of reading souls I would do the same thing. But with respect to those who come to the church with goodwill and a god heart seeking God it is a different situation. We should be opening the doors to the Church and especially we should be facilitating the opportunities for them to go to confession.  


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    « Reply #8 on: June 30, 2014, 11:31:36 PM »
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    "Who am I to judge a gαy person of goodwill who seeks the Lord?" the pontiff said at the time, speaking in Italian. "You can't marginalize these people."

    A person of goodwill who seeks the Lord is a person who is repentant of their sins, Who are we to block the door of the Church or the confessional to the sinner who wants to come in?


    Poche... there is no such thing as a gαy person.  Humans are heterosɛҳuąƖ!

    God could no more create a square circle than a gαy person! Even if someone is/was guilty of unnatural vices it doesn't change their nature.  

    When the poor sinner comes into the Church in goodwill we should not be closing the door to him. What we should be doing is to try to bring him closer to God. Mass, Confession Adoration of Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament.  

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    « Reply #9 on: June 30, 2014, 11:34:17 PM »
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    administering a vaccine against faith


    Against what faith ?

    Saint Paul told us not to associate with the sɛҳuąƖly immoral and unrepentant gαys were included in that category.

    So, I don't know what faith francis is a member of, but I follow the teachings of the leader of the Church who was empowered by Jesus in the flesh. I follow the faith of Jesus- not the faith of the false preacher francis I.

    Jesus ate with sinners and led them to repentance. Why shouldn't we do the same?  

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    « Reply #10 on: July 01, 2014, 12:04:57 AM »
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    administering a vaccine against faith


    Against what faith ?

    Saint Paul told us not to associate with the sɛҳuąƖly immoral and unrepentant gαys were included in that category.

    So, I don't know what faith francis is a member of, but I follow the teachings of the leader of the Church who was empowered by Jesus in the flesh. I follow the faith of Jesus- not the faith of the false preacher francis I.

    Jesus ate with sinners and led them to repentance. Why shouldn't we do the same?  


    Just who do you think is leading sinners to repentance?  Bergoglio?

    What you wrote here is calumny by implication.  It's disgusting.


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    « Reply #11 on: July 01, 2014, 10:47:25 PM »
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  • I am traditional.  This was in the latest PHX, AZ dioceses paper (volume 30, number 6-June 19, 2014 page 3, Youth Ministry conference draws hundreds by Gina Keating.  700 People  came to the annual Catholic Youth Ministry Training Covention June 8-11 in Scottsdale, AZ.  

    Here is one paragraph:  "Not one to shy away from societal issues facing teens today, the conference also offered leaders a course on gαy marriage and same-sex attraction under the heading "Same Love, Same Church".  

    It continues, " Our goal is to completely transform the ides of what youth ministry is in our Church and what it can be, " said Stephen Lenahan, Atlanta-based Life Teen director of events.

    In 1992, the Phx dioceses had the state come into the church halls to teach what can save them, the C-word, condom.  It was also brought into the High schools, one being under Bishop Moreno of Tucson.  And it was brought in by Grant monies and federal $$ under HIV Task Force, which was implemented in ALL states!

    So, any reader on this thread, think New Order is just fine, well they are on the fast road to Hell!

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    « Reply #12 on: July 01, 2014, 11:08:33 PM »
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    I am traditional.  This was in the latest PHX, AZ dioceses paper (volume 30, number 6-June 19, 2014 page 3, Youth Ministry conference draws hundreds by Gina Keating.  700 People  came to the annual Catholic Youth Ministry Training Covention June 8-11 in Scottsdale, AZ.  

    Here is one paragraph:  "Not one to shy away from societal issues facing teens today, the conference also offered leaders a course on gαy marriage and same-sex attraction under the heading "Same Love, Same Church".  

    It continues, " Our goal is to completely transform the ides of what youth ministry is in our Church and what it can be, " said Stephen Lenahan, Atlanta-based Life Teen director of events.

    In 1992, the Phx dioceses had the state come into the church halls to teach what can save them, the C-word, condom.  It was also brought into the High schools, one being under Bishop Moreno of Tucson.  And it was brought in by Grant monies and federal $$ under HIV Task Force, which was implemented in ALL states!

    So, any reader on this thread, think New Order is just fine, well they are on the fast road to Hell!

    We should all know what the Catholic church teaches about chastity and marriage. Anyone who would contradict that teaching is obviously not teaching what the Church teaches.

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    « Reply #13 on: July 03, 2014, 05:50:07 AM »
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  • But poche. Padre Pio did not need to use his gift of reading souls, but his gift of eyesight, to see a woman wasn't covered. Seriously, would he have let these same women come back to confession within that day for putting a coat on if all that changed were their CLOTHING? That's just ...offensive to Padre! You've got to think better than that or I'm close to calling you a troll, or maybe a bit brainwashed.

    Again, if a drag queen entered in even shorter skirts [as they tend to do], lipstick, earrings, whatever Impy does, Padre Pio would have stomped them like an ant — spiritually, at least — and as per the Miserere, that's a BLESSING!. It would have been for their own good! Their LAST CHANCE, possibly, to be told there's something in this world worth more than that "person's" perverse and base notions of "love"!

    Someone who is wearing gαy PRIDE Sodomite issuance (including your head honcho) does NOT intend to to give up the lifestyle, or to stop supporting that lifestyle. Your "inclusiveness" of them has nothing to do with HELPING them, and neither does Frank's, or any of the prelates who allow/encourage it. If you think otherwise, you're turning a blind eye to their open sin, to their sickness, and if you don't care about your own soul, at LEAST care about their souls, man up, and tell them to man up (literally). Again: please.
    Legem credendi, lex statuit supplicandi

    +JMJ

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    « Reply #14 on: July 03, 2014, 05:55:41 AM »
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    Jesus ate with sinners and led them to repentance. Why shouldn't we do the same?  


    That's the problem; He did not use the word repent. Jesus did not eat with sinners in order to make them feel better about their sins.