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Offline roscoe

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Anti-pope Francis 1
« on: June 28, 2013, 06:20:54 PM »
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  • This imposter is an unelected, heretical, illegal anti-pope.  :detective:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


    Offline s2srea

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    « Reply #1 on: June 28, 2013, 06:26:34 PM »
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    This imposter is an unelected, heretical, illegal anti-pope.  :detective:


    Why with what elegance you speak, its a wonder we're not all sedevecantists/ Sirites.  :rolleyes:


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    « Reply #2 on: June 28, 2013, 06:55:26 PM »
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    This imposter is an unelected, heretical, illegal anti-pope.  :detective:


    Your post and your signature contradict each other.

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    « Reply #3 on: June 28, 2013, 06:58:48 PM »
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    This imposter is an unelected, heretical, illegal anti-pope.  :detective:


    Your post and your signature contradict each other.


    Not at all.

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    « Reply #4 on: June 28, 2013, 06:59:50 PM »
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    This imposter is an unelected, heretical, illegal anti-pope.  :detective:


    How about a "Peter" who is "non canonically elected, destroyer pope" ?

    Source: St Francis of Assisi (deathbed warning to his fratres)
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #5 on: June 28, 2013, 07:01:31 PM »
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    This imposter is an unelected, heretical, illegal anti-pope.  :detective:


    Why with what elegance you speak, its a wonder we're not all sedevecantists/ Sirites.  :rolleyes:


    I subscribe to the Siri hypothesis and at the same time reserve the possibility that some of the subsequent popes were valid.

    Cardinal Siri may have been legally elected and accepted the job, then threatened and stepped aside.  Since he never stood above the people in St. Peter's Square and publicly accepted the papacy, in my book, it's like an unconsummated marriage after both spouses said "I do".  That would have left the papacy open to another: Paul VI.  Then Paul VI would or could have been the valid pope, until that time, whenever that was, that he stopped being a Catholic (if that happened after he was elected.)

    As for the cardinals appointed by Paul VI, and the validity of their votes in conclave, I don't necessarily agree.  As ancient elections were held giving the vote to lay people of Rome, many of whom were likely apostates, but we trust that the Holy Ghost guided those elections, then why can't we say the same about the subsequent elections of JPI, JPII, BXVI, and Francis?  Or at the very least, entertain the possibility of the validity of those elections?

    The way that I see it, this can almost be seen in the same way that we look at Common Error with regards to the validity of confessions.  If the churchmen get together to hold the election, and all appear to be Catholic, even though some are not, which has probably always been the case, then perhaps we can trust the Holy Ghost to ensure that the election is valid.  I'm not saying this definitively as I'm not a theologian and not qualified to make the call.  Please correct me if you see holes in my logic.  But these are my thoughts currently on the situation, and I do subscribe to the Siri Hypothesis.  

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    « Reply #6 on: June 28, 2013, 07:02:04 PM »
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    This imposter is an unelected, heretical, illegal anti-pope.  :detective:


    Your post and your signature contradict each other.


    Could u elaborate on that pls?

    BTW-- thanks for actually reading my signature.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #7 on: June 28, 2013, 07:15:25 PM »
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    This imposter is an unelected, heretical, illegal anti-pope.  :detective:


    How about a "Peter" who is "non canonically elected, destroyer pope" ?

    Source: St Francis of Assisi (deathbed warning to his fratres)


    I just read through this.  Very powerful warnings indeed.  Wouldn't he have been refering to Paul VI as the one not cononically elected who edeavors to draw many into error and death?


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    « Reply #8 on: June 28, 2013, 10:54:13 PM »
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    This imposter is an unelected, heretical, illegal anti-pope.  :detective:


    Why with what elegance you speak, its a wonder we're not all sedevecantists/ Sirites.  :rolleyes:


    What is a 'sedevacantist'?
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #9 on: June 28, 2013, 10:57:21 PM »
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    This imposter is an unelected, heretical, illegal anti-pope.  :detective:


    I thumbed this down, not so much because of your assessment of Francis, but more-so because it comes off as trolling, which you have a history of.

    Starting a thread to tell everyone your opinion on Francis I wasn't necessary. Yet you seem to enjoy being the center of attention.

    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #10 on: June 28, 2013, 11:48:55 PM »
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    This imposter is an unelected, heretical, illegal anti-pope.  :detective:


    Why with what elegance you speak, its a wonder we're not all sedevecantists/ Sirites.  :rolleyes:


    What is a 'sedevacantist'?


    There's no such thing as a sedevecantist Roscoe, remember??


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    « Reply #11 on: June 29, 2013, 03:58:01 PM »
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    Could u elaborate on that pls?

    BTW-- thanks for actually reading my signature.


    Actually, I read your sig months ago when I was more actively participating on CI. I just glossed over it after I read your op because I remembered it being somewhat anti-sv.

    It seems I was wrong.

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    « Reply #12 on: June 29, 2013, 09:02:10 PM »
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    This imposter is an unelected, heretical, illegal anti-pope.  :detective:


    I thumbed this down, not so much because of your assessment of Francis, but more-so because it comes off as trolling, which you have a history of.

    Starting a thread to tell everyone your opinion on Francis I wasn't necessary. Yet you seem to enjoy being the center of attention.



    Well, not that I am a fan of Roscoe's, but very few threads that anyone starts here, myself very much included, could be described as necessary.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir