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Offline StLouisIX

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Some More Stuff About Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
« on: November 29, 2020, 10:02:57 PM »
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    Offline Frank

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    Re: Some More Stuff About Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
    « Reply #1 on: November 30, 2020, 09:11:20 AM »
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    • Thank you for posting this.

    I could never understand why so many seemingly "good" traditionalists, turn a BLIND-EYE to his horrendous liberalism.

    The bishop is dangerous. Stay away.
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    Re: Some More Stuff About Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
    « Reply #2 on: November 30, 2020, 12:51:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Frank on November 30, 2020, 09:11:20 AM
    Thank you for posting this.

    I could never understand why so many seemingly "good" traditionalists, turn a BLIND-EYE to his horrendous liberalism.

    The bishop is dangerous. Stay away.
    You're welcome. When I was first crossing the Tiber from the Novus Ordo Church to Tradition, I was deceived by the "conservative" image of Bishop Sheen touted by many lay Trad Inc. outlets. That perception was quickly shattered when I watched the first few videos on him that were put out by this channel. 

    I thought it would be best to put up at least one of them here to share with those on CI who maybe don't know this information about Bishop Sheen's activities. 

    This video is a part of a much more lengthy series of videos, but the one I posted in the OP functions as a superb summary of the issues covered in them. 

    Here is the rest of that series: 



























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    Re: Some More Stuff About Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
    « Reply #3 on: November 30, 2020, 06:52:32 PM »
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    • Indeed - thank you for these.
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    Re: Some More Stuff About Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
    « Reply #4 on: December 01, 2020, 03:00:49 AM »
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    • Thank you so much, St Louis. These videos are very useful informative and well docuмented.
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    Re: Some More Stuff About Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
    « Reply #5 on: December 01, 2020, 02:29:42 PM »
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    • Two years ago I read a comment that Rochester was "visited by greatness," when Sheen was there and were too stupid to realize it. I'll bet there are plenty of people still living in Rochester who were against the canonization effort. 
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    Re: Some More Stuff About Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
    « Reply #6 on: December 01, 2020, 03:24:44 PM »
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    • It's good to see that people are waking up to the truth about Bishop Sheen. Memory can be selective—no news there, of course—and the preference for thinking the best of people who've done good at some point in life is an aspect of human nature that it would be sad to lose. But the closer his life and work are examined, the clearer it becomes that the case for Bishop Sheen as a pillar of the Faith is about as solid as the case for JFK as a devout Catholic, patriot, and hero.

    Can there be any doubt that if Sheen were alive today, he would be hailing the election of the devout, lifelong Catholic Joe Biden?
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    P.S. I just heard Biden on C-SPAN quoting verse 7 of Psalm 27 (28), "The Lord is my strength and my shield," and referring as he did so to "the words of the palmist." In other words, this so-called lifelong Catholic doesn't know that the silent letter in "psalmist" is p, not s.
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    Re: Some More Stuff About Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
    « Reply #7 on: December 01, 2020, 04:40:24 PM »
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    • I'm a cradle Catholic that went to public school and was confirmed at 13 (via Sunday school) in the Old Rite before the Novus Ordo. No bishop or priest ever asked me a question, good thing because I knew nothing. I promptly left the Church and came back at 41.    The first book given to me about the faith was Fulton Sheen's The Life of Christ, written in 1958. I read it and was very impressed, I still think it is excellent as a starter. In later years I saw old videos of Fulton Sheen on YouTube and could not watch them for more than 30 seconds, I could not stand it. To me the Fulton Sheen on the screen was just  showman. I think he appealed to women and feelings oriented types. Like the Novus Ordo and the Dialogue mass. 
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    Re: Some More Stuff About Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
    « Reply #8 on: December 02, 2020, 10:48:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on December 01, 2020, 04:40:24 PM
    I'm a cradle Catholic that went to public school and was confirmed at 13 (via Sunday school) in the Old Rite before the Novus Ordo. No bishop or priest ever asked me a question, good thing because I knew nothing. I promptly left the Church and came back at 41.    The first book given to me about the faith was Fulton Sheen's The Life of Christ, written in 1958. I read it and was very impressed, I still think it is excellent as a starter. In later years I saw old videos of Fulton Sheen on YouTube and could not watch them for more than 30 seconds, I could not stand it. To me the Fulton Sheen on the screen was just  showman. I think he appealed to women and feelings oriented types. Like the Novus Ordo and the Dialogue mass.
    Were you raised in the United States (or Canada)?  I thought I recalled your mentioning something one time about coming from Europe in the wake of Communist hegemony.  I might be thinking of someone else.
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    Re: Some More Stuff About Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
    « Reply #9 on: December 03, 2020, 12:00:32 PM »
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    • It is interesting to note that even people who go wherever the wind blows can be great forces for good…but only so long as the wind is blowing straight and true.  As soon as the wind begins to blow off course, those very same people become just as great forces for evil.  One may never know that any particular individual is motivated by principle or simply because he is simply allowing the wind to take him in whichever direction it happens to be blowing.
     
    It is an unfortunate but incontrovertible fact that Bishop Fulton Sheen fell into the latter category.  I had read once that he felt his appointment as Bishop of Rochester was a demotion from his position as an auxiliary bishop of New York and it was made clear to him that the reason for this appointment was his failure to “get with the program” and his past anti-communism.  I don’t know if that was true but it does seem that much of his overt “conversion” occurred the moment he received that appointment.
     
    On the other hand, I’ve always wondered why he would tell Bella Dodd to keep secret the identities of communist infiltrators in the Church and have wondered if he was actually a stealth infiltrator himself who used his fame to prevent faithful Churchmen from preventing the Masonic takeover of the Vatican.
     
    His catechism series that he recorded in the early 1950s, however, is good as is his Life of Christ, so I am more apt to believe that he was once completely faithful to the Church and to the Faith but his love of fame was greater than his love of God and he was willing to forsake all he believed to be in the limelight.  As these videos show, however, selling one’s soul rarely results in what one seeks.
     
    Fulton J. Sheen’s life was tragic.
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