Author Topic: Another pickle the heretics have got themselves into (Read 2610 times)

CM · « **Reply #15 on:** August 12, 2009, 11:49:30 PM »

John Hardon is your new pope?

CMMM · « **Reply #16 on:** August 13, 2009, 06:39:58 AM »

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John Hardon is your new pope?

No.

But you certainly aren't.

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So does a cat, a dog, a guinea pig, a horse... why didn't you argue that they also have the use of reason?

I feel there is a difference between instinct and reason. If you can prove everything a child who has not reached the age of reason, and a lunatic does are based solely on instinct, perhaps I could agree with you.

CM · « **Reply #17 on:** August 13, 2009, 01:58:39 PM »

Pope Pius X approved the teaching that children have not arrived at the use of reason (at least not sufficiently to be bound by the Divine Law, to distinguish between good and evil) until they reach the age of discretion, which is about 7 years old.

CM · « **Reply #18 on:** August 13, 2009, 01:59:48 PM »

Quam Singulari

CMMM · « **Reply #19 on:** August 13, 2009, 05:48:55 PM »

I'm still certain the term impious could be applied to any without a proper respect of God, whether it be from ignorance or choice.

For the record, I would call a dog impious, simply because it cannot be pious.

Additionally, from Quam Singulari

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A full and perfect knowledge of Christian doctrine is not necessary either for First Confession or for First Communion. Afterwards, however, the child will be obliged to learn gradually the entire Catechism according to his ability.

I think, if a full understanding is not necessary for first confession or communion, but we are obliged afterward to learn the entire catechism, it would contain that which is necessary for a full and perfect knowledge.

I assume you'll show how this is not binding, but the 7 year age is.