Author Topic: Another example of Catholicism vs. the world (Read 608 times)

Matthew · « **on:** January 18, 2016, 09:57:06 PM »

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I need a pep talk. My husband and I brought our children to the very first tridentine mass in our area last night. My daughters and I veiled for the mass. When I shared the news with my mother I was scoffed at. When I defended the practice (both the latin mass and veiling) I was accused of bringing women back to the pre-women's lib movement and going against the changes the church has made over the last 40 years. I was saddened by the lack of understanding, but mostly that in trying to be more holy, I met such harsh criticism.
—feeling sad.

Matthew: It's not an accident that the "last 40 years" is being contrasted with what is good and holy. The last 40 years have been a wrecking ball on the Church. Those who love the Church (which is fundamentally traditional) will despise "womens lib", and vice-versa. You can't serve God and mammon, or God and the world, or God and satan.
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Matthew: God will reward you for doing the right thing, and seeking him rather than the approval of men. The situation in the Church/world today is a test -- God is watching closely to see what we will do. Seeking approval of men is called "human respect" by the great Catholic spiritual authors, and is up there with pride and lust as far as how much damage it does to souls. How many souls refrain from doing what is good, because they worry about what others think?

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1 on:** January 18, 2016, 11:32:57 PM »

It's no secret that being faithful to Our Lord and the Church He instituted will leave mothers opposed to daughters and fathers against sons.

There's nothing new under the sun.

If Catholic parents today can practice the Traditional Faith and keep their own children together, it's a big success, and nothing to be ashamed of. If your own mother (your children's grandmother) doesn't want to hear about it, then DON'T TELL HER. Don't tell her about your fast from midnight or your abstinence on Fridays.

Don't give her the chance to accuse you of "turning back the clock."

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Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #2 on:** January 21, 2016, 03:12:03 PM »

If accused of turning back the clock, why don't we just calmly explain that the clock, as it is now, is wrong. We could also say that the Truth of Our Lord transcends whatever time of day it happens to be.

This isn't new thinking. Those who hate Our Lord, even though they don't say so openly, have always sided with the world and they have always held to the belief that time will wipe away faith.

A confused woman would ask questions and wonder if she was wrong. An evil woman will accuse a righteous woman of "setting others back".

Also, if the choice is a loving mother with a large family vs a bitter angry woman who has had multiple abortions or multiple husbands, only a vulgar stupid person would pick the latter.

Desmond · « **Reply #3 on:** January 21, 2016, 04:44:10 PM »

The masonic Illuministic idea of "Progress" feeds on itself and has done incalculable damage.

Once some novelty is adopted, it usually becomes almost impossible to be reverted back to the previous, objectively superior, state.

While the idea is flawed, and easily proven untrue (even by modern, overtly progressivist, historiography itself!), it has sedimented in virtually everyone's mind in the Western hemisphere (and de facto, everywhere apart from the Moslem world). It IS the current milieu.

Curiously, it was quite the opposite in the Classical world (cosmogony mostly spoke of decadence from earlier, superior Eras), and very different in the Medieval Era (with an essentially horizontal view of Progress).