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Offline Jehanne

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Another dumb post from the Traditio fathers.
« on: March 10, 2014, 08:06:41 PM »
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  • It's the March 12th one:

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    Good Catholics, the new Cosmos series is not worth your time. It relies on cheesy computer graphics to titillate the unscientific crowd rather than to present well-researched scientific history. It is a caricature of the history of science. It is a great disappointment after all the advertising hoopla. Carl Sagan would have been a balanced enough historian of science not to have presented such a web of fabrications under the guise of history. He would have let the truth speak for itself. So, skip Tyson/Druyan's 2014Cosmos and read a truthful science book instead. Or get Carl Sagan's original 1980 series on DVD.


    I watched the original series and read the original book, Cosmos.  Here is what Sagan had to say about the existence of God from the original book:

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    The Cosmos is all that is or ever was or ever will be. Our feeblest contemplations of the Cosmos stir us — there is a tingling in the spine, a catch in the voice, a faint sensation as if a distant memory, of falling from a height. We know we are approaching the greatest of mysteries.


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    The fossil record implies trial and error, an inability to anticipate the future, features inconsistent with an efficient Great Designer.


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    The neurochemistry of the brain is astonishingly busy, the circuitry of a machine more wonderful than any devised by humans. But there is no evidence that its functioning is due to anything more than the 1014 neural connections that build an elegant architecture of consciousness.


    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan#Cosmos_.281980.29

    Here's some more that did not make the Wiki article:

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    In many cultures it is customary to answer that God created the universe out of nothing.  But this is mere temporizing.  If we wish courageously to pursue the question, we must, of course ask next where God comes from.  And if we decide this to be unanswerable, why not save a step and decide that the origin of the universe is an unanswerable question?  Or, if we say that God has always existed, why not save a step and conclude that the universe has always existed?


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    What do you do when you are faced with several different gods each claiming the same territory?  The Babylonian Marduk and the Greek Zeus was each considered master of the sky and king of the gods.  You might decide that Marduk and Zeus were really the same.  You might also decide, since they had quite different attributes, that one of them was merely invented by the priests.  But if one, why not both?  And so it was that the great idea arose, the realization that there might be a way to know the world without the god hypothesis....


    http://carlsagan.tripod.com/

    Yep, traditional Catholics ought to watch and read the original Cosmos!


    Offline Man of the West

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    Another dumb post from the Traditio fathers.
    « Reply #1 on: March 10, 2014, 08:40:54 PM »
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  • I was scratching my head over this one myself. Traditio is seldom reliable anyway. They exaggerate their reporting so much that it becomes mere propaganda. In any current events piece of reportage, the best a Traditio commentary will do is tell you that a story happened. You'll want to verify the details from another source. But that being said, a recommendation to watch Cosmos from a Traditional Catholic is still truly baffling.

    I'll admit I read the Cosmos book myself when I was a boy of 12. I still have it, as a matter of fact. It was a mercy of God that I read it, for it helped to lift me out of a deep, deep depression I was in at the time. It reignited my love for natural science and gave me many fascinating puzzles to think about. Carl Sagan, despite his many mistakes, was one of the best science writers of the twentieth century. I read many more of his books when I was a teenager.

    But that qualifies as one of those instances where God directs a soul by His mysterious providence, not where He marks out a path that can be recommended to others. This all occurred long before I converted to Catholicism. As a Catholic I would not advise someone in my spiritual care to read Cosmos unless I were to personally guide them through it and guard them against the many subtle and not-so-subtle philosophical errors contained therein.

    It's too bad there aren't any contemporary Catholic science writers of comparable quality. This is one defect that Thomist scholars with a scientific interest should work to remedy at once.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Another dumb post from the Traditio fathers.
    « Reply #2 on: March 11, 2014, 08:42:30 AM »
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  • Well, the Traditio Father(s), aka Mike Morrison, has posted similar junk in the past, promoting movies which are harmful to faith and morals.