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Re: Amoris Laetitia
« Reply #50 on: November 15, 2017, 12:23:21 AM »
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The useful idiot who keeps quoting the Communist catholicnewsagency strikes again............and again............and again...........
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He is using Amoris Laetitia in order to explain Catholic Truth.

Re: Amoris Laetitia
« Reply #51 on: November 15, 2017, 12:35:37 AM »
He is using Amoris Laetitia in order to explain Catholic Truth.
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He ought to use something else. So should you. 
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Re: Amoris Laetitia
« Reply #52 on: November 15, 2017, 01:05:40 AM »


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Perhaps you should read this post again.

Or, did you fail to read it the first time?



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A iti teal siro malan ach triba nalpa nama.*

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The admission of public adulterers in so-called second marriages to Holy Communion 
is intrinsically impossible.
It always has been and it always will be.
But that doesn't mean that in some places de facto heretics won't attempt to do it anyway.
Marriage is indissoluble and adultery is intrinsically immoral.
But Amoris Laetitia (AL) would have abstract ideas (divine precepts) 
subverted by pastoral action in the "face of reality."
In this way a new "secret commission" tasked by Pope Bergoglio 
seeks to reinterpret the constant teaching of the Church.
Effectively, a public adulterer would then be allowed 
to continue his adultery while receiving Holy Communion.
Why? Well, ceasing his adultery is "more than he can give." That's why!
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Now what we have is a first fallout of the objectively disordered Amoris Laetitia (AL).
It comes in the form of a reinterpretation of Humanae Vitae based on AL.
Pope Paul VI, liberal though he was, managed to do one thing right.
But one thing is one thing too much for the current "bishop of Rome."
Unable to overturn Humanae Vitae directly by frontal assault, 
he has chosen to take a different path.
The catastrophic introduction of situation ethics into the life of the Church via AL 
is now being extended.
It's now being extended to accommodate the intrinsic evil of contraception.
The intrinsic evil of contraception was affirmed by Pope Paul VI, 
but today, that is not to be allowed to stand.
It must be torn down, and Pope Bergoglio has a plan:


A iti teal siro malan ach triba nalpa nama.* 

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Monsignor Gilfredo Marengo is the "coordinator" of the commission 
nominated by Francis to "re-interpret" Humanae Vitae in the light of AL.
This, on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of HV's promulgation 
which falls next year ( 2018 ).
This commission has been given the ominous task 
of procuring some things from the Vatican archives.
Namely docuмentation on the preparatory work for HV which took place over 3 years.
Make that 3 years "during and after Vat.II."
"What did that preparatory work achieve?" one might ask (please ask now).
It resulted in the recommendation that the Church relax her teaching to permit contraception.
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Say what?
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That's correct (sic = as it appears)
Said preparatory work for HV recommended to Pope Paul VI 
that the Church throw in the towel on her teaching.
However, Pope Paul VI, while otherwise quite a liberal, 
set aside his liberal inclinations, some say miraculously.
He thusly acted perhaps under the influence of the Holy Ghost. 
(Do you have a more plausible suggestion?)
He set aside his hankering for novelty just long enough 
to protect the Church's infallible universal ordinary Magisterium.
That means what the Church has constantly taught 
even without a formal, infallible dogmatic definition.
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The unannounced plan is now to overthrow HV 
by subterfuge since it was unassailable by frontal attack.

The planned mudus operandi of the pastoral abandonment 
of the Church's infallible teaching
on the intrinsic evil of contraception would appear 
to be the same as that which AL proposes
for the pastoral abandonment of the Church's teaching 
on the intrinsic immorality of adultery
and thus the "intrinsically impossible" admission of public adulterers 
in so-called second marriages to Holy Communion.

IOW what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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Leaving little doubt of the matter, Msgr. Marengo, 
the very coordinator of the not-so-secret commission,
has already told Vatican Insider that
it's time to consider "abandoning a conception 
of the doctrinal patrimony of the Church as a closed system,
impermeable to questions and provocations 
of the here and now, in which the Christian community is 
called to justify its faith through its proclamation and testimony."
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In order to drive this point home, Marengo proposes 
the classic Modernist opposition between 
Catholic teaching and "the here and now,"
as if the mere passage of time could alter 
immutable doctrines and dogmas rooted in divine revelation.
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* Don't get it? (Read it backwards: A man, a plan, a birth canal, Amoris Laetitia.) The same difficulty you had with this simple puzzle is nothing compared to the conundrum of AL and its implications.

Re: Amoris Laetitia
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2017, 01:26:46 AM »
“You can have infallible teaching proclaimed in a less solemn docuмent,” Martens explained, “and in solemn docuмents you can have teaching of several levels. An example of this is Evangelium vitae, the encyclical of John Paul II: some of the teaching in there is put at a higher level, and it's clear from the wording of the text.”
He noted that in Amoris laetitia's third paragraph, Pope Francis “says he doesn't intend to exercise his authentic Magisterium.”

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/argentine-pastoral-letter-accompaniment-in-marriage-must-be-faithful-28749

Re: Amoris Laetitia
« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2017, 09:37:11 AM »
“You can have infallible teaching proclaimed in a less solemn docuмent,” Martens explained, “and in solemn docuмents you can have teaching of several levels. An example of this is Evangelium vitae, the encyclical of John Paul II: some of the teaching in there is put at a higher level, and it's clear from the wording of the text.”
He noted that in Amoris laetitia's third paragraph, Pope Francis “says he doesn't intend to exercise his authentic Magisterium.”

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/argentine-pastoral-letter-accompaniment-in-marriage-must-be-faithful-28749
Of course he doesn't, he is a modernist. they do not care about claiming authority for their false teaching, they only want to teach it. The weakmindedness of men and their passions do the rest.

The docuмent is heretical and denies both Traditional Catholicl teaching and Sacred Scripture, that is all that matters.