Author Topic: Amazed by announcement at Novus Ordo parish (Read 3632 times)

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #30 on:** July 26, 2013, 02:19:51 PM »

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The CMRI Masses I attended have the sentinels for sure. I took the interrogations in stride. Community is a by product of Faith Hope and Charity, not a primary means to salvation that the Novus Ordo realm advances. Go to the FSSP. They have valid Masses with priests who are not afraid to criticize the NO, VII, and the Bishops.

Tell us more about this.

Which part?

The whole enchilada. I'm interested in hearing people's experiences at Trad Chapels.

I explained it above.

I don't think you did. But if that is what you consider "explaining" then we will consider the matter closed.

Spork · « **Reply #31 on:** July 26, 2013, 08:59:30 PM »

I think I did. Read the entire thread very carefully and you will see what happened about 7 years ago when I first attended the TLM.

SJB · « **Reply #32 on:** July 26, 2013, 09:36:54 PM »

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The CMRI Masses I attended have the sentinels for sure. I took the interrogations in stride. Community is a by product of Faith Hope and Charity, not a primary means to salvation that the Novus Ordo realm advances. Go to the FSSP. They have valid Masses with priests who are not afraid to criticize the NO, VII, and the Bishops.

Sentinels? Could you define what these "sentinels" do and explain why you use that term? Who questioned you? Why do you use the term, "interrogation?" Is it possible that the priest or some laypeople were being friendly with you and making conversation?

I have never heard of such behavior at the CMRI. I know many who go there and have referred many to go to them and not once have I heard such a thing.

From my experience with CMRI, they are very friendly and welcoming. I have never been "interrogated" by them, even when traveling in chapels where no one knows me. I simply went to Mass and left, and was never "interrogated."

A little uptight and self conscious, he?

No, I think he just wanted some details to go with your rather vague accusations.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #33 on:** July 31, 2013, 04:33:01 PM »

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This expectation of sociability from one's fellow congregants is one of the most perfidious side effects

If expecting that people might attempt to practice "Christian brotherhood" in showing some welcome to Catholics lost in this time of crisis is what you call "one of the most perfidious side effects" of Vatican II then I would be led to think your views of Vatican II are not to be taken seriously.

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of the perversion wreaked on the Faith and on the mind-set of the faithful by the horrid council convened 51 years ago.

So someone says hello to you. (it wouldn't be me) In your mind you're thinking. "This is the result of the perversion of the Council, that some impertinent person addresses me."

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When Archbishop Lefebvre spoke and wrote of the NO mass as "Protestant" and "making Protestants," this social aspect was certainly not the main thing he had in mind. Yet this Protestant-style desire for "fellowship" as a prime motivation for attending Sunday "services" simply underlines the truth of his perception. People formed by the NO are, whether they see themselves as such or not, Protestant to the core. True conversion is much more than a matter of a few smells and bells.

What is resembles Protestantism is the social organization of many Trad chapels.