Author Topic: Altar Girls at the Traditional Mass (Read 3932 times)

Raoul76 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 11, 2011, 04:19:44 PM »

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Satan's masterstroke is to have succeeded in sowing disobedience to all Traditon through obedience (ie. false obedience). - Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre

Oh, the irony!

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #11 on:** May 11, 2011, 04:43:20 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

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Satan's masterstroke is to have succeeded in sowing disobedience to all Traditon through obedience (ie. false obedience). - Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre

Oh, the irony!

:rolleyes:

Smart-aleck.

Wessex · « **Reply #12 on:** May 12, 2011, 08:08:46 AM »

Actually, it is far easier to disobey a 'pope', even one you recognise, than it is to disobey a SSPX superior. Because with the latter therein lies those necessary elements of authority withdrawn from the former. This negates any state of disobedience by proxy. Now grounds for this exercise of substitution have been put down to mental sickness, German university education, partial papal awareness and now the heavy workload of Rome running two contradictory churches. Lefebvre's particular 'act of necessity' is the word of God ....... tagged onto whatever is still legitimate in contemporary Rome ..... and must be obeyed! Gosh, it makes be almost feel like a protestant questioning this, so mangled it has all become. I think it is far easier understanding financial derivatives at the most esoteric level.

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 12, 2011, 09:04:39 AM »

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So in the future will the Motu Mass be like a box of chocolates? You never know what you're gonna get? It's almost that way now.

One Motu Mass may have CITH, one may have girl altar boys, the next may have all women uncovered, congregants dressed immodestly or inappropriately, Novus Ordo table in front of the altar. What's next, guitar music & sign of peace?

Note how Cardinal Burke doesn't address the issue as to whether the head covering rule is STILL in force and applies to ALL Masses since the '83 code never revoked it, and all unrevoked Canonical laws are still in effect per the '83 Code's own words. If he actually stated the rule applies to the NO right now, he'd find himself quickly out of a job, tarred and feathered.

Stevus, on another of Father Z's blogs posts Cardinal Burke's analysis of women wearing head coverings at Mass.

You can read it here.

Cardinal Burke says that women are not required to wear head coverings at the NO, but that women should wear head coverings at the "EF" because that was the practice or custom at the time, but that women don't really have too.

Here is what is happening: The modern Church wants to convince modern Catholics that traditionalists are merely attached to customs or practices from the "old" days. If you really listen to them you can hear what they are saying. "Releasing" the "old" form of the Mass was for those people who are attached to the Mass of their "youth". They want to focus on the rituals. Why? Because if one actually looks at the content or the substance of the Mass, one can easily see that the Masses are different, that there are 2 Churches, and that can not be so.

So what Cardinal Burke is saying is that "altar girls" are perfectly acceptable. The "EF" doesn't have to use them if the people find it upsets their sensibilities but the priest can use them if the need arises and the people are not offended.

This is a practice for the upcoming acceptance of women Deacons. Cardinal Burke will say that this, too, is perfectly acceptable because the Permanent Deacon can not consecrate or forgive sins, which are "jobs" specifically delegated to the priesthood. Thousands of 50+ women will be knocking on the doors. This will solve the problem of an aging priesthood, because they will eventually have 1 priest on Saturday morning consecrate the hosts and pass them out to the Deacons.

It's coming. Soon. Before B16 dies, it will happen.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #14 on:** May 12, 2011, 09:44:07 AM »

So true, CathMomof7. You get a thumbs-up! :cool:

Benedict is just trying to please both sides (not that you can please everyone anyway). He claims the "EF" and "OF" are on the same level in validity and that he hopes both forms can learn from one another. Just flat out ridiculous.