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Offline LaramieHirsch

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Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
« Reply #90 on: July 04, 2018, 11:14:53 AM »
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    • Alaric, most of my response was directed at Croix, though I was speaking about Trad Catholics in general.  I've often got along with you and liked your posts.  
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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #91 on: July 04, 2018, 05:25:06 PM »
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    • Many Alt-Right name the Jews, but won't name the Savior.  Many Rad-Trad name Jesus Christ, but won't name the Jews.

    Alt-Right leave Christ in the closet.  The Rad-Trad leave themselves in the closet.  In the process, they both serve human respect and the masonic ideal (separation of church and state).
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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #92 on: July 04, 2018, 11:12:51 PM »
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    • Most Trads, I now realize, think this is what will happen:


    Times become difficult ---> Something magical happens ---> Life is great for Catholics now.

    They prefer to alienate others as well as themselves.  They do not believe, it seems, in a slow crawl through institutions that are already there.  If the effort doesn't spontaneously result in Catholic utopia, then they won't engage.  

    This is how the Catholic world is, apparently.  This is why the Catholic world pales in comparison to the secular world.  And this is why the Catholics will be run over time and time again.  Catholics fail in America.  
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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #93 on: July 05, 2018, 01:26:23 AM »
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    • You don't realize how far gone things are. You're Judaized. It came as a shock to you that the alt-right leaders were fishy characters when I gave you that zog link. You took them at face value. You're just naive.

    I've been telling you from the beginning that the alt-right is a Jew operation. All politics in the West is Jєωιѕн. There are no major political movements that exclude Jews and masons. Catholics only have the option of a lesser of two evils, or they just don't participate.

    Since you feel this need to take back the West then you should get the ball rolling and start a movement. But make sure you exclude the riff-raff, otherwise it would be a failure. You also need big brains to undertake such an endeavor. I don't have big brains and I don't think you do either. There would have to be some people with big brains running the movement.

    I content myself with the knowledge of how things are. I think if there were a lot more people like me, then out of such individuals would arise the necessary leaders.

    Even Bishop Williamson has exhibited Judaization in the past, like when he invited that rabbi to speak to seminarians.
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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #94 on: July 05, 2018, 11:41:13 AM »
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    • Interesting.

    Quote from: rum on July 05, 2018, 01:26:23 AM
    Since you feel this need to take back the West...


    ...so I guess this means you don't feel the need to take back the West?
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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #95 on: July 05, 2018, 03:57:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: LaramieHirsch on July 05, 2018, 11:41:13 AM
    Interesting.


    ...so I guess this means you don't feel the need to take back the West?
    Your reading comprehension can't be that bad.
    I'd love to see a re-Christianization of the West. As I say, however, this won't come about by belonging to groups controlled by Jews. You need Jew-free and Mason-free groups to do this. I don't see anywhere the brainy/sufficiently Catholic figures one would need at the helm for such an undertaking.
    You seem to be trying to give people a guilt-trip for not being gung-ho about the alt-right. I don't feel any guilt for not allowing myself to be manipulated by Jews.
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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #96 on: July 05, 2018, 04:48:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: rum on July 05, 2018, 03:57:11 PM
    Your reading comprehension can't be that bad.
    I'd love to see a re-Christianization of the West. As I say, however, this won't come about by belonging to groups controlled by Jews. You need Jew-free and Mason-free groups to do this. I don't see anywhere the brainy/sufficiently Catholic figures one would need at the helm for such an undertaking.
    You seem to be trying to give people a guilt-trip for not being gung-ho about the alt-right. I don't feel any guilt for not allowing myself to be manipulated by Jews.

    Everything in this nation has the taint of Jews on it.  This has been a Jєωιѕн colony since the Puritain days.  America is Israel Part 2; only here, they seem to $hit where they eat.  You will not escape social commerce with these people.

    The Left--including Jews--were willing to make the long, slow March amid our institutions, working with who they had to and mixing it up.  Someone with your attitude could not do such a thing.  You live in a godless, pagan land, and you think you can just ignore its inhabitants and rule over it?  This isn't France.  The Church's entire history here is one long series of missed opportunities.  

    There was a time when this nation was young, and the Catholics could've afforded to--and ought to have--isolated themselves from Jews and heretics.  But those early Catholics, wanting their piece of the pie, compromised and sold out, losing those rare opportunities each and every time.

    Now, Catholics are at the bottom of the barrel.  We are the last acceptable prejudice in this country.  And the Trad Catholics are the bottom of the bottom.  Evangelism and outreach are not options any longer, they are necessary for survival.  Your income and security depends upon powers that hate you and think you're a bigot for what you believe.  You are forced to build from the ground up, using the material around you.  The faithless people around you are that clay.  You can try and make something with what you have, or you can spurn evangelism and die out.  America won't care.

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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #97 on: July 05, 2018, 05:34:04 PM »
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    • Not to butt in on your conversation, but, no one has responded about my opinion about an Orthodox-styled revival in the East that has somewhat "rechristianized" many of the former atheist/communist nation from the former eastern blocs.

    I see somewhat of a Catholic revival in some of them nations as well like Poland and Hungary, which are vehemently resisting the global Jєωιѕн cabal as we speak. This might see a better blueprint for success than some kind of a secualr/prot/irrelgious inspired alt-rt movement in the U.S.

    Of course, problem is, those nations, like most Euro nations were founded on Catholicism, unlike the freemasonic/prot roots here in America. So, I believe, therein lies the problem. How we overcome that i'm not sure. But naming the anti-Christ jew/globalist/,banksters could be a start.

    Also a big problem is, the current regime in Rome (Vatican) is pro-globalist/Jєωιѕн/ illegal-immigrant/ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ/atheist/protestant......you name it.

    I think we have to get our own house in order before we , as Catholics, go preaching to anyone. IMO.
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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #98 on: July 05, 2018, 05:46:43 PM »
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    • Alaric, what you say here is key:

    Quote from: alaric on July 05, 2018, 05:34:04 PM


    Of course, problem is, those nations, like most Euro nations were founded on Catholicism, unlike the freemasonic/prot roots here in America.


    We are forced to build from the ground up.  We have no choice.


    Quote from: alaric on July 05, 2018, 05:34:04 PM
    I think we have to get our own house in order before we , as Catholics, go preaching to anyone. IMO.


    Then we wait until Judgement Day.  We will be waiting forever to "be ready."  Even the Apostles had disagreements.  Even the Corinthians couldn't clean themselves up spotless.

    Our strategy should involve a long march through the institutions, AS WELL AS building our own powerhouse.  That means engaging politically, and supporting our own ultras.

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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #99 on: July 05, 2018, 11:03:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: alaric on July 04, 2018, 06:13:46 AM
    Whatever. I'm not Southern, protestant or display a rebel flag in my garage. I don't live in a trailer park ,  have tatoos but I do have all my teeth. So, the "invisible" empire is pretty much that to me. Invisible. And I don't even know who Huey Long is without googling him, so why bother.
    The Ku Klux Klan has been associated with the alt right.
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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #100 on: July 06, 2018, 04:08:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on July 05, 2018, 11:03:52 PM
    The Ku Klux Klan has been associated with the alt right.


    Cocaine-snorting sodomites, pederasts, and pedophiles have been associated with the Catholic Church.
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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #101 on: July 06, 2018, 05:09:09 PM »
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    We are forced to build from the ground up.  We have no choice.
    That's exactly right. Start with being  normal, work hard, pay your taxes, get married, have children, live by the Natural Law and do things that made most traditional socities safe and strong. this is a good start.

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    Then we wait until Judgement Day.
    Every day is Judgement Day for everyone at some point. No special day makes a difference.

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    We will be waiting forever to "be ready."  Even the Apostles had disagreements.  Even the Corinthians couldn't clean themselves up spotless.
    We should always learn from their (our ) mistakes. But there will always be idiots in your midst. This will never change.

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    Our strategy should involve a long march through the institutions, AS WELL AS building our own powerhouse.  That means engaging politically, and supporting our own ultras.
    I agree. We should strive for perfection, take over these institutions, politically, academically, whatever and  become the unsilent majority. Like it used to be in America before we sat back, became fat and let the deviants and freaks take over.

    You must take a strong lead and the people will follow. Normal people at least and these usually are the majority.

    Just lead from a strong familial and community vantage point and don't let your movement become a freak show of costumed clowns and wanna be "nαzιs", those idiots will drive you down in a New York minute.

    I don't believe this is that difficult, but the masses have become pathetically weak and stupid, That's the problem.

    You need to be the solution.
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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #102 on: July 06, 2018, 08:14:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: LaramieHirsch on July 05, 2018, 04:48:43 PM
    The Left--including Jews--were willing to make the long, slow March amid our institutions, working with who they had to and mixing it up.  Someone with your attitude could not do such a thing.  You live in a godless, pagan land, and you think you can just ignore its inhabitants and rule over it?  This isn't France.  The Church's entire history here is one long series of missed opportunities.
    I couldn't do it the way the Jews did. Catholicism says it's a sin to pretend to not be Catholic. It's also a sin to pretend to not be everything that being Catholic entails, which means being anti-Jєωιѕн and anti-masonry.
    Achieving a decent pagan land which respects natural law isn't possible in collaboration with Jews and masons, much less a Catholic restoration.
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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #103 on: July 06, 2018, 08:23:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: alaric on July 05, 2018, 05:34:04 PM
    Not to butt in on your conversation, but, no one has responded about my opinion about an Orthodox-styled revival in the East that has somewhat "rechristianized" many of the former atheist/communist nation from the former eastern blocs.

    I see somewhat of a Catholic revival in some of them nations as well like Poland and Hungary, which are vehemently resisting the global Jєωιѕн cabal as we speak. This might see a better blueprint for success than some kind of a secualr/prot/irrelgious inspired alt-rt movement in the U.S.

    Of course, problem is, those nations, like most Euro nations were founded on Catholicism, unlike the freemasonic/prot roots here in America. So, I believe, therein lies the problem. How we overcome that i'm not sure. But naming the anti-Christ jew/globalist/,banksters could be a start.

    Also a big problem is, the current regime in Rome (Vatican) is pro-globalist/Jєωιѕн/ illegal-immigrant/ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ/atheist/protestant......you name it.

    I think we have to get our own house in order before we , as Catholics, go preaching to anyone. IMO.
    I have to read up more on what's going on those countries. Did you see the Putin video where he uses the anti-semitism canard about gentiles using Jews as a scapegoat for their own problems?
    I'm aware of Orban with the immigration issue. But I'm not necessarily of the belief that the Jews want to genocide whites, so a leader doing things that seem to protect whites doesn't necessarily signify that he's not working with Jews, or not one himself. Paul Gottfried has said that white nationalism can be good for Jews.
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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #104 on: July 07, 2018, 08:07:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: rum on July 06, 2018, 08:14:38 PM
    I couldn't do it the way the Jews did. Catholicism says it's a sin to pretend to not be Catholic. It's also a sin to pretend to not be everything that being Catholic entails, which means being anti-Jєωιѕн and anti-masonry.
    Achieving a decent pagan land which respects natural law isn't possible in collaboration with Jews and masons, much less a Catholic restoration.


    How do you think Christendom started in the first place?  Do you honestly believe it fell out of the sky as a gift to the world?  No.  Christians were relegated to gathering in cemeteries and catacombs.  During Roman rule, even the Christians had to slowly crawl through society, making gains where they could.  Arguably, the long March of Catholics is going on right now in China.

    If it is a cold freezing night, and you have a bundle of wood, you don't refuse to light a match because some Jew over there is also using a match.  

    Jews also chew their food.  Does this mean you swallow all your food whole?
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