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Offline Croix de Fer

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Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
« Reply #75 on: July 03, 2018, 02:51:13 PM »
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  • to Kessler's fiasco at Charlottesville, those (in America, at least) who've tried to take leadership reigns  
    Kessler, also, organized the Occupy Wall St. event when he was an open Leftist. I highly doubt he truly converted to the Right. He's a plant in the Alt-Right. Kessler is also a Jєω surname. He's likely a Jєω.


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    I can't tell you enough how disappointing it is to me that Traditional Catholics have been convinced by Hillary Clinton, of all people, to regard these people as deplorables.
    I only have disdain for the plants like Kessler and the fαɢɢօts in the Alt-Right. The rest of the Godless idiots, I don't wish them any ills.

    Do you think if the Alt-Right was able to win against the enemy and set up their system of governance, whatever it might be, although we can be certain it won't include Jesus Christ as the Compass, that anything would really change for the long run? Without a Christ-centered system of governance, the nation & civilization will fall. The problem with many Alt-Righters is that they ignore Divine Law. It's good that they, variably, have some innate recognition and observance of natural law, except for the fαɢɢօts, but much of the Alt-Right still fails to see that natural law comes from God, and they can't see that adherence to Divine Law is the only guarantee of harmony within the species.


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    Yet, the ideas behind the movement are still very strong with a lot of people on the Right.  Those who've tried to be a "tip of the spear" forgot that in 2016, the thing that made the Alt-Right so powerful was that it had no leaders.  It was just a general consensus.  A whole lot of people thought the same thing at the same time, and it helped push the current president into power.  Truth be told, "Alt-Right" is just a brand name--actually made up by Richard Spencer, who possibly may be some sort of controlled opposition, as I've discussed on my blog before.  But the truth is that Spencer and his "Alt-Right" labeling brandname was just one guy riding on the coattails of an inevitable movement.  

    As America goes forward, as our society declines, and as the truth of things becomes more obvious, more people will begin to wake up to a lot of the issues that the anti-politically correct Alt-Right once pointed out.  Traditional Catholics will never be caught up to any of it, I now realize.  And once everyone realizes "the score," it'll be too late.  

    Call this movement what you will.  For me and many, including Andy Nowicki as an example, the Alt-Right phenomenon was an anti-political correctness movement that was all about getting down to the real issues ignored for three to four decades.  The truth is that the Alt-Right is simply...Right.  Neoconservatism (a Jєωιѕн creation), Conservatism, and all of the faux right-wing approaches--which amounted to nothing--are merely slow-Left movements.  

    I mostly agree.


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    Then continue to be satisfied in their hell-bound direction.  I can see you take great pleasure in the destruction of these people.  Myself, I do not rejoice at the destruction of souls and the ignorance of men.  But clearly, you enjoy the ruination of other people.  So enjoy that.  Myself, I can't lower myself to that level of malice and apathy.
    No, only the destruction of queerdos, crypto-Jєωs & atheists in the movement.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #76 on: July 03, 2018, 02:59:01 PM »
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  • Me:  Then continue to be satisfied in their hell-bound direction.  I can see you take great pleasure in the destruction of these people. 


    No, only the destruction of queerdos, crypto-Jєωs & atheists in the movement.



    Amen!  Amen, brother!  To Hell with them all!  Let them go!  Let us clap and cheer and jeer at these fools!  Don't lift a finger!  Don't engage with them at all!  They can eat crap and die...and then have Hell to look forward to!  The bastards!  No mercy!  
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    Offline Croix de Fer

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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #77 on: July 03, 2018, 03:21:20 PM »
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  • I like Davis Aurini. I don't agree with him on everything, but he has a lot of thought-provoking monologues (I miss those b/c he doesn't do them much anymore) and live chats. He can dissect and explain things real well, too.

    It's great he converted to Catholicism. Let's pray he becomes more entrenched in Holy Tradition. He claims to be a "trad Catholic", but he's really not...

    It's good he's taking baby steps, and let's pray he ends up an Olympic runner.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #78 on: July 03, 2018, 04:25:25 PM »
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  • I like Davis Aurini. I don't agree with him on everything, but he has a lot of thought-provoking monologues (I miss those b/c he doesn't do them much anymore) and live chats. He can dissect and explain things real well, too.

    It's great he converted to Catholicism. Let's pray he becomes more entrenched in Holy Tradition. He claims to be a "trad Catholic", but he's really not...

    It's good he's taking baby steps, and let's pray he ends up an Olympic runner.

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    Offline klasG4e

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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #79 on: July 03, 2018, 08:48:02 PM »
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  • Today, after submitting this article out there to the interwebz, I've met with nothing but opposition from both groups.  It's been fascinating.  

    I mean, I know several Alt-Right personalities who are Catholics.  And I've met Catholics who are pro-Trump and agree with what the Alt-Right has been discussing.  

    But dare to mention the similarities between the two groups, and they appear to hate one another.  This is not something I foresaw.  And yet...it's entirely predictable.  

    The Alt-Right does not know what Traditional Catholicism is about.  They just imagine a bunch of gαy priests and Pope Francis.  Likewise, Trad Catholics don't even know what the Alt-Right is.  They just think of the term "neo-nαzι," racism, and Richard Spencer--all of which is quite wrong.  

    And, it seems, neither group has the time to make distinctions or to hear out what the actual scoop is.  No one has the patience for it.  

    This is actually an excellent topic.  Obviously, there is a lot of misunderstanding and rash judgments passed from one group to another, but hopefully posts such as yours can help to clear the air and lead to a more constructive dialog.  Hopefully!

    Patrick Little out in California may or may not prove to be a good leader of the Alt-Right.  Time will tell.  By his own admission in one interview he was raised Irish Catholic, although he also says that as a young man he started going to Christian Evangelical churches.

    In a rather brief communication to me he said that he goes to a traditional Latin Mass church in the Bay Area on some week-ends, although I don't think he's stated this in any of his public interviews.  Sedevacantist Trad Cat political activist and former Congressional candidate Jim Condit Jr. has been a key advisor to Little in the area of vote fraud.

    See https://littlerevolution.us/
    and https://gab.ai/Patrick_little


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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #80 on: July 04, 2018, 05:27:14 AM »
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    Which is why it behooves Catholics to get involved, show the way, and help point things in a more productive direction, rather than sit on the sidelines, be insular, and say stupid things like: "I'm neither Left nor Right, I'm Catholic!" (™)
    When did I ever say that? Anyway, I don't let secualr, political idiots define my worldview in whether I'm on the "right" or wrong side of the aisle. I'm on the side of Truth and stick close to the doctrines and dogmas of the Church . I don't base my beliefs on which way the political winds are blowing that day. As for getting invovled, I'm invovled every day in some way and fight for things like honor, family, freedom, right to life and the kingship in Christ the best I can. I don't feel the need to go bash a few commies or leftists in the streets, although I have no problem doing that if they are stupid enough to push up on me. But they're not a problem where i live, they would instantly get an ass beating the second they got out of line where I live. And I simply don't have the time to traverse across the country chasing them morons down . Besides that, from what I see, it's just a big set-up to begin with, the powers that be are always going to rig the system against them (alt-right), they don't care if they have legal permits, Free Speech and the Constitution on their side. You are dealing with straight up commies and crypto-fascists on the left and the deep state, they don't care about the rules. They're terrorists. And there's only one way to deal with terrorists, and it's not logic, reason, protests and free speech.

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    Richard Spencer's Alt-Retard approach seemed, at one point, to doom the movement.  It certainly isn't a brand most are any longer willing to identify with.  Hillary Clinton has convinced you and everyone else to abandon the movement.  Which is not good, because the next iteration will be all-the-more intense.  Remember the Tea Party?  Yeah.  It just builds up more and more, every time they knock it down or you abandon it.  
    HC has convinced me of nothing. In case you haven't noticed, the witch has been defeated and rendered pretty much irrelevant these days. The normal thinking people have spoken, that's why DT is in the WH . I get what your saying about the "movement", but the reality is, the movement has already begun without idiots like Spencer screwing things up. The majority of the country is still normal, white and conservative for the most part. The polite people do their talking at the polls. That will always be the difference. That's IF we still have a "democracy" these days.

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    But the fact of the matter is "Alt-Right" isnt' "alternative" anymore.  It is simply Right.  Everything else--the cuckservatism, the conservatism that conserves nothing, the neo-con push, all of it is to the Left
    Unfortunately the cucks still have a powerful position in the Christian evangelical wing of the Right. And they never seen a Jєω ass they wouldn't kiss, this includes the president. There is no real "right" as far as i'm concerned. There's only the Truth and the Lie.And if you're on the side of the Jєωs, you're on the side of the Lie. I don't what you call yourself.

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    This is an unraveling fact that is making itself obvious in Europe first.  It remains yet to be seen whether or not this will happen in the United States, or that this place will end up like Haiti and South Africa. 
    It's already here in some parts. Been to Detroit or New Orleans lately? But there's also money here as well. I've seen plenty of "no go" areas for whitey years ago, been completely turned around. It's not in the best interests of the moneychangers or anyone else in power to let the country go completely dark or turn into a third world craphole.

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    Based on the Americans' genetic DNA predisposition to fear the words "bigot" and "racist," I imagine that foreigners will be in total control of this empire in a decade or two.  By the time everyone figures all this out and that Buchanan was right, it will be too late. 
    Nah, these "foreigners" completely let go of their baggage from wherever they come from within a generation or two in the end. They all become "Americans" eventually. The question is, what kind of an "America" will it be?

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    (The downthumb wasn't mine, btw.)
    Eh, that doesn't bother me anyway. I wouldn't have even noticed if it wasn't even  mentioned.

    For the record, I've usually appreciated your posts and worldview, keep up the good work.

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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #81 on: July 04, 2018, 05:33:07 AM »
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  • Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad.  Not when it comes to contraception.  The Alt-Right continually whine about the White Race being wiped out, being genocided by all kinds of things, but they hate to mention the biggest one -- that big elephant in the room known as contraception.  In this regard they are like the child who whines about being an orphan after he has murdered his parents.
    This is true. They continue to be outbreeded.
    Big families and numbers will always be a dominant factor, that's why you can't go against the Natural Law and expect something different than insignificance and eventual extinction.
    Even the muzzies realize this.

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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #82 on: July 04, 2018, 05:46:08 AM »
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  • Is there a relation between the Alt-right and groups like the ku klux klan?
    100 yrs ago them costume-wearing clowns were afraid to show their faces.
    Now they're even afraid to show their hoods.
    I would think the short answer is NO.


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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #83 on: July 04, 2018, 06:03:06 AM »
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  • 100 yrs ago them costume-wearing clowns were afraid to show their faces.
    Now they're even afraid to show their hoods.
    I would think the short answer is NO.
    Even 50 years ago they were a power to reckoned with. That is why I liked Huey Long. He called their grand dragon what we in polite society might say is an illegitimate child. 

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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #84 on: July 04, 2018, 06:08:59 AM »
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  • I down-thumbed him. I like alaric (I think he came to this forum as a result of an invite from me over on FE), but he has a tendency to grandstanding.

    I can't think of anyone on these tradcath fora over the years who's posted more on race than alaric. Even his name suggests Alaric I, who sacked Rome, and is a name popular in white identity circles.
    I came over here years ago as a result of Quis notifying me  of this site, especially when FE became too PC and the queers began to take over, over there after Quis left. I don't remember your invite, but it's possible, that was a long time ago.
    As for me "grandstanding", I don't see it that way, maybe it's just my posting style, if you think it's grandstanding, I can't change that. But I've seen more than my share of drama queenery on the forums over the years. I try not to get caught  up in that. I'll stick to the facts.
    And as for race, I think it's a subject that's been pretty much forced down our throats in the last 30 or so years. I didn't start, but I have something to say, again, if that's an issue with some people, that's not my problem.
    My name was actually created because Alaric fought against Rome, which, ironically, is what this site more or less is doing, so I think it's more than appropiate. And for the record, I'm not a "white" nationalist, whatever the hell that really is.
    I'm an orthodox (not EO) traditional Catholic with nationalist leaning tendencies with an ethnic backgroud from Western and Southern Europe. I believe in the traditions, norms and values handed down to me from my culture which goes back a long time before anything was "white" or American. 



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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #85 on: July 04, 2018, 06:13:46 AM »
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  • Even 50 years ago they were a power to reckoned with. That is why I liked Huey Long. He called their grand dragon what we in polite society might say is an illegitimate child.
    Whatever. I'm not Southern, protestant or display a rebel flag in my garage. I don't live in a trailer park ,  have tatoos but I do have all my teeth. So, the "invisible" empire is pretty much that to me. Invisible. And I don't even know who Huey Long is without googling him, so why bother.


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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #86 on: July 04, 2018, 08:14:37 AM »
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  • As long as we're diverting conclusions about this conversation:

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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #87 on: July 04, 2018, 08:24:54 AM »
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  • I don't live in a trailer park

    I hear this statement used as an ad hominem.  I have my own house. I don't live in a trailer park, but I must say that it's more dignified of people living in trailers than people living in apartments. At least with trailers, the person (generally) owns it or they're making payments to, ultimately, own it. Conversely, the apartment dweller is a rent-slave subject arbitrary incursions by staff. With owners of trailers, there is sovereignty, and even more so if they have their own plot of land, but the apartment dweller is a punk. He's living in a communist-like environment. No ownership. No equity. No freedom. Everyone is basically the same. Paying his money to make another person rich.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #88 on: July 04, 2018, 09:13:22 AM »
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  • I hear this statement used as an ad hominem.  I have my own house. I don't live in a trailer park, but I must say that it's more dignified of people living in trailers than people living in apartments. At least with trailers, the person (generally) owns it or they're making payments to, ultimately, own it. Conversely, the apartment dweller is a rent-slave subject arbitrary incursions by staff. With owners of trailers, there is sovereignty, and even more so if they have their own plot of land, but the apartment dweller is a punk. He's living in a communist-like environment. No ownership. No equity. No freedom. Everyone is basically the same. Paying his money to make another person rich.
    I must've touched a nerve. My apologies to those whose dream of home ownership comes with a set of wheels.
    That's a sound investment you have there buddy;

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    Re: Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad
    « Reply #89 on: July 04, 2018, 09:16:03 AM »
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  • I must've touched a nerve. My apologies to those whose dream of home ownership comes with a set of wheels.
    That's a sound investment you have there buddy;


    Learn how to read, fruity. I said I have my own house, not a trailer.
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