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Re: All you ever wanted to know and probably more
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2022, 04:34:30 AM »
On January 3rd, 1997, the following report appeared in The Catholic Herald, an English weekly newspaper:

‘The Grand Orient of Italy decided to award the Pontiff Pope John Paul II with the Order of Galileo Galilei, the highest form of recognition able to be made by Italy’s freemasons to a non-member, in recognition for his promotion of universal masonic values of fraternity, respect for the dignity of man, and the spirit of tolerance… Our intention is to pay homage to a man who, unlike his predecessors, showed himself to be extremely open-minded, rehabilitating Galileo, promoting a critical analysis of the Inquisition [etc.].’

Let us recall here the ‘Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita,’  otherwise known as the ‘Alta Vendita Plan’ discovered in 1820, whose ultimate end is that of Voltaire and the French Revolution which speaks of working for a generation that will rejoice in having a pope ‘according to our wants’ and of a clergy who will ‘march under our banner in the belief always that they march under the banner of the Apostolic Keys.’

The secret papers of the Alta Vendita (written in the early 1800s), highest lodge of the Italian secret society, the Carbonari; acquired by Pope Gregory XVI, and, on the orders of Pope Pius IX (1846-1878) and later Pope Leo XIII, was published by Cretineau-Joly in his work The Roman Church and Revolution, reprinted in 1885 and many times since.

The Alta Vendita plan tells of an era of infiltration into the Catholic Church by the Carbonari, who had links with Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, so that they could introduce into Catholicism their liberal and progressive ideals and principles, a revolution and reformation that manifested itself at that pastoral council Vatican II (1962-65). History shows us that one by one, the popes of Vatican II were liberal and progressive, introducing and allowing changes to Catholicism undreamed of before and making themselves saints one after the other all trying to make the post-Vatican II era look like the most Catholic of all in history.


Re: All you ever wanted to know and probably more
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2022, 05:20:39 AM »
This calumny has been refuted…..see this CI thread:

https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/slaves-of-dr-plinio-an-attack-refuted/msg654648/#msg654648



TIA used sources from a freemason to support this lie against Venerable Pius IX. :facepalm: title=facepalm:facepalm: title=facepalm:facepalm: title=facepalm
Thanks <3


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Re: All you ever wanted to know and probably more
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2022, 05:22:50 AM »
If he is a Freemason, he would have incurred excommunication and would not have validly ascended the throne of Peter. Now that would be another can of worms to argue over.

If Trento was a Freemason he would incur automatic excommunication and would no longer be a Catholic and thus he would be outside the Church. :facepalm: :fryingpan:

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Re: All you ever wanted to know and probably more
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2022, 05:26:55 AM »
Pope Pius IX is on the short list of my greatest heroes!

He was a man of fearless courage, who defied the forces of darkness, despite standing alone and defenseless against them. He sacrificed everything for the sake of one soul, that poor little Mortara child, but he knew that one immortal soul is more precious than all of Christendom. And by the end of his long reign, and his life, he had lost not only the 1,000-year kingdom of the popes, but also the support of most of Christendom, had lost most everything he had in this world, but he had no regrets. Like he could care less what freemasons and Jєωs and liberal Catholics thought of him. What mattered to him was God, and nothing else.

Truly one of the greatest popes in 2,000 years. He didn't die a martyr, but he may as well have, and he came very close many times. His papacy will never be forgotten until the end of time.


Great post. I pray to him daily.

Re: All you ever wanted to know and probably more
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2022, 07:32:18 AM »
If Trento was a Freemason he would incur automatic excommunication and would no longer be a Catholic and thus he would be outside the Church. :facepalm: :fryingpan:
I would agree. So what's your point?