Matthew said recently:
Yes, I know, I know. I'm treating sedevacantists like 2nd class citizens. Guess what? Newsflash -- this isn't a sedevacantist board. It's an SSPX board, and I'm not sedevacantist, I attend the SSPX. So if you feel like you're in 2nd place, it's because you are! What do you think, I'm going to put SSPX in second place? Don't be ridiculous!
Matthew said to Alexandria today:
It's your PRIDE which considers Sedevacantists to be "1st class citizens" which causes you to consider yourself a 2nd class citizen here.
I will leave this evidence here for you to do with as you will
Matthew, and then I will pray that you do the right thing.
I will try to explain so it's clearer.
I don't have ghettoes for the Sedevacantists on this here SSPX board. I don't have a virtual armband for gypsies, Jєωs, gαys, or sedevacantists. I could easily do so, by the way. I'm a programmer, and I could easily add a field for "Sede" in the user record, which would show up below your name. But I don't wish to do this.
Yes, CathInfo is an SSPX board, due to the fact that I'm pro-SSPX. But I've talked many times before (till I'm blue in the face, actually) about how that doesn't mean much, because everyone is free to discuss and argue here. If I allow both sides to talk, discuss, have heated discussions, argue vehemently, etc. then what does it matter what the "official CathInfo position" is?
De-facto, it's a Traditional Catholic forum in general. It's not de-facto an SSPX board since a large percent of the membership is sedevacantist. But since I run CathInfo, I get to give CathInfo it's "personality" or "official identity". If CathInfo went to Mass, he would go out of his way to find an SSPX chapel. But CathInfo isn't a man, so what does it matter?
I suppose I should have been clearer before, and chosen better words. What I truly mean is,
We have no "first class" or "second class" citizens here. But Alexandria, for whatever reason, obsessed over the fact that I favor the SSPX more than sedevacantists. Why does she care so much which group I favor personally? If I am asked who is "number 1" of course I'm going to say SSPX. But I don't go around saying that, or acting like it. I just require sedevacantists to keep in mind that this is not a sedevacantist board. I'm not inviting them here because I'm one of them -- I am being charitable to them, and I expect the same in return. How is that bad?
Let's trade places. If she ran a forum (virulently anti-SSPX, of course) and I was a member (hahaha. As if she would allow SSPX-leaning members), what if I complained all the time that SSPX members were treated like 2nd class citizens? I can only imagine how she would get annoyed with my constant complaints.
She seems to genuinely hate the SSPX, since she wants SSPX anything to be treated like dirt, or "put in its place". The more a given CathInfo member is anti-SSPX, the more she wants to be their friend. Any dig or low blow against the SSPX is met with unrestrained applause. I'm no fool; I know that you can tell a lot about a person by looking at their friends. She's even admitted that she doesn't care for the SSPX. But she's hiding most of her hatred, I believe. If she just wanted "equal time", the benefit of the doubt, or tolerance here -- all other CathInfo sedevacantists are content, by the way -- she should have been perfectly happy and content here. The fact that I gave the SSPX a position of honor here was like the "worm that dieth not", gnawing at her constantly.
Here are some quotes from Alexandria's recent posts:
People that are engaged in the cultish behaviour of worshiping their idols (be it JPII, Sheen or ABL) are not capable of objective or reasonable thought.
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Unless [the SSPX] have changed, not really. Their faithful are quite divided about many things. And the priests - I found some saying that JPII's first encyclical was heretical to others that made me wonder why they were with the SSPX rather than the FSSP. That was my experience with them.
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What amazes me the most is how an SSPXer can't see his/her own inconsistencies, or that the SSPX has become an ABL cult - Lefebvre is your very own JPII.
Sorry, Matthew. I spent, as you all know, almost ten years with the SSPX. I am sick and tired of sedes being denigrated and looked down upon as third class Catholics by neo-Cats and the SSPX. Does it make you all feel better about yourselves to have a common enemy - "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."
So this isn't the first time she's spit venom at the SSPX.
She's had a lot of good posts, about a great many topics. Why do you think she's been on here so long? But as of late, it seems like she's been more and more bothered by the fact that I favor the SSPX.
Matthew