Ohhhh.... Sophistry... Really?
I throw your own devices in your face!
from Magisterium A.I.:
Was Honorius a heretic or was he condemned and named as a heretic because he did not do his duty to extirpate the heresy?
Pope Honorius I (r. 625–638) was posthumously condemned by the Third Ecuмenical Council of Constantinople (680–681) not primarily for personally embracing the Monothelite heresy—that Christ possessed only one will (divine)—but for failing in his papal duty to actively suppress and extirpate it. This distinction is crucial in Catholic historical and theological understanding, as it underscores a lapse in pastoral vigilance rather than a formal endorsement of error in his official teaching capacity. The council's anathema targeted his letters to Patriarch Sergius I of Constantinople, which ambiguously tolerated or even seemed to favor Monothelitism by discouraging further debate on the issue, thereby allowing the heresy to spread. In essence, Honorius was faulted for negligence in upholding orthodox doctrine, a serious dereliction for a pope tasked with guarding the faith.
This condemnation reflects the Church's emphasis on the pope's responsibility to defend unity and truth, as articulated in later teachings like those on papal primacy (e.g., Vatican I's Pastor Aeternus). However, it does not imply that Honorius was a heretic in the full sense of willfully adhering to false doctrine; the evidence points to ambiguity and inaction rather than outright heresy. The council's decree explicitly named him alongside other promoters of Monothelitism, but historical analysis, including from Catholic sources, interprets this as a rebuke for omission—failing to "extirpate the heresy" as you phrased it—rather than personal conviction.
Notably, nearly 160 years later, Pope Leo III (r. 795–816), who was later canonized as a saint, issued a formal decree in 799 absolving Honorius of the heresy charges. This exoneration, recorded in contemporary sources like the Liber Pontificalis, restored his reputation by clarifying that his errors were not heretical in intent but stemmed from a desire for ecclesiastical peace at the expense of doctrinal clarity. Leo III's action highlights the Church's nuanced approach to such historical judgments, allowing for reevaluation without undermining conciliar authority.
In Catholic doctrine today, this episode is often cited to illustrate that popes are protected from error only when teaching ex cathedra on faith and morals (as defined by Vatican I), not in private correspondence or administrative decisions. Honorius's case serves as a cautionary example of human frailty in the papal office, reinforcing the need for vigilant orthodoxy without contradicting the gift of infallibility. For deeper study, resources like the Catholic Encyclopedia or conciliar acts provide further context on how the Church reconciles such events with its magisterial tradition.
https://www.magisterium.com/search/f1856f72-0f17-4585-ad08-150c4bfe60f8
Argue some more like a Protestant, come on then since you love their arguments so.
And while doing so also tell me about "The Catholic Trumpet".
I will simply supply the leading proofs that Honorius was as a matter of fact condemned by the Sixth Ecuмenical Council as a heretic:
1.Condemnation in the Acts of the Council-Honorius’s condemnation is recorded in the official conciliar acts in Session XIII, near the beginning. (Mansi, Sacrorum Conciliorum Tomus XI, cols. 635‑637)
2. Letters Ordered to Be Burned-The Council ordered the destruction of Honorius’s two letters to Sergius because they contained error. (Mansi XI)
3. Formal Liturgical Anathema-In Session XVI, the bishops proclaimed:
“Anathema to the heretic Sergius, to the heretic Cyrus, to the heretic Honorius, etc.” (Mansi XI)
4. Decree of Faith-In Session XVIII, the Council’s decree of faith states that the originator of all evil found a tool for his will in Honorius, the Pope of Old Rome. (Mansi XI)
5. Report to the Emperor-The Council reported to Emperor Constantine IV that “Honorius, formerly bishop of Rome, has been punished with exclusion and anathema because he followed the Monothelites.” (Mansi XI)
6. Letter to Pope Agatho-The Council wrote that it “has slain with anathema Honorius,” indicating formal recognition of his culpability. (Mansi XI)
7. Imperial Decree-The Emperor condemned “the unholy priests who infected the Church…Honorius, the Pope of Old Rome, the confirmer of heresy who contradicted himself…who in everything agreed with them, went with them, and strengthened the heresy.” (Mansi XI)
8. Ratification by Pope St. Leo II-Pope Leo II confirmed the decrees of the Council and explicitly anathematized Honorius. (Mansi XI; Roman Breviary, pre‑1955 editions)
9. Trullan Canons-Honorius is mentioned among the condemned in the Trullan Canons (Canon 10/11), which were received as authoritative pre-Vatican II Catholic law. (Denzinger, Enchiridion Symbolorum, pre‑1955 edition)
10. Seventh Ecuмenical Council Affirmation-The Second Council of Nicaea (787) explicitly declares adhesion to the anathemas of the Sixth Council, including Honorius. (Acts of Nicaea II)
11. Roman Copy of the Acts- Honorius’s name appears in the Roman copy of the Council’s acts, as recorded in Vita Leonis II (Life of Pope Leo II). (Mansi XI, cols. 637‑638)
12. Papal Oath in Liber Diurnus-From the fifth to the eleventh century, newly elected popes swore an oath condemning the originators of the Monothelite heresy, explicitly naming Honorius. (Liber Diurnus Romanorum Pontificuм, Vincenzo Forcella edition, 1888)
13. Roman Breviary-In the lesson for the feast of St. Leo II (pre‑1955), Honorius is listed among those excommunicated by the Sixth Synod. As Bossuet noted, “They suppress as far as they can, the Liber Diurnus: they have erased this from the Roman Breviary. Have they therefore hidden it? Truth breaks out from all sides, and these things become so much the more evident, as they are the more studiously put out of sight.” (Roman Breviary, pre‑1955; Bossuet)
With this array of Catholic sources, it is indisputable that Pope Honorius was formally condemned and anathematized as a heretic by the Sixth Ecuмenical Council and recognized in subsequent papal, imperial, and liturgical sources, yet he remained pope until his death.
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