Author Topic: Affirm or Deny: Heretic Yet Pope Until Death? (Pope Honorius I case (Read 184812 times)

DecemRationis · « **Reply #140 on:** December 22, 2025, 03:43:26 PM »

Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on December 22, 2025, 12:20:30 PM

I think it should be hashed out using the sources.

No need to apologize.

Honest question: Is this why Lad calls you a heretic?
(not trying to blast you or anything)

The only infallible Magisterial source I know of is the statement in Vatican I that there would be shepherds until "consummationem saeculi." There's a whole thread on that:

https://www.cathinfo.com/the-sacred-catholic-liturgy-chant-prayers/vatican-council-says-there-will-be-shepherds-'usque-ad-consummationem-saeculi'/

Ask him. I could care less.

Catholic Knight · « **Reply #141 on:** December 23, 2025, 07:24:44 AM »

Quote from: Freind on December 22, 2025, 12:51:33 PM

Since this thread is about a pope, I must add a very important fact - Popes are not subject to canon law. So we shouldn't be talking about canon law.

Also, since a pope cannot be judged, the only type of judgment used would be a "declaratory" judgment, which means the judges already went into the court knowing with certainty the man is not the pope, and merely, in a sense, writes the death certificate so that everyone is on the same page about it in society.

I was writing about the sin of heresy and its relation to the crime of heresy. The crime is based upon the sin.

Freind · « **Reply #142 on:** December 23, 2025, 09:02:34 AM »

Quote from: Catholic Knight on December 23, 2025, 07:24:44 AM

I was writing about the sin of heresy and its relation to the crime of heresy. The crime is based upon the sin.

Right.
I just wanted to take the opportunity to mention to all readers now and future that canon law does not apply to a pope. It's a common problem.

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