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Abused nuns coming forward
« on: July 29, 2018, 01:28:52 PM »
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  • The following article was in my local newspaper yesterday.
    Reminds  me of "Maria Monk" from the early 1800's

    https://www.therecord.com/news-story/8766991-vatican-meets-metoo-nuns-denounce-priests-who-abused-them/
     





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    Re: Abused nuns coming forward
    « Reply #1 on: July 29, 2018, 02:06:42 PM »
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  • And now the sex abuse scandal hits our consecrated religious sisters.  :(

    At this point, it's simply horrifying, disgusting and revolting that so many of the people who are ordained before God to be priests forever are pederasts and abusers. Bishops and Cardinals, too. 

    People who probably knew he was unfit for Holy Orders like bishops and cardinals are very much also complicit. There are, or should be, systems to weed these types of people out before ordination.
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    Re: Abused nuns coming forward
    « Reply #2 on: July 29, 2018, 10:02:16 PM »
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  •  There are, or should be, systems to weed these types of people out before ordination.
    The forces of evil already well-entrenched in the Church don't want to root them out.  That's the point, to ordain and promote them, the higher up, the better!  Read the Alta Vendita!

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    Re: Abused nuns coming forward
    « Reply #3 on: July 30, 2018, 12:10:38 AM »
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  • Remember the good old days when confessor and penitent were separated by a solid wall with a small window and a thick curtain.

    And remember when nuns would always travel in pairs.

    I'll bet there was less abuse in those days.

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    Re: Abused nuns coming forward
    « Reply #4 on: July 30, 2018, 03:20:17 AM »
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  • Remember the good old days when confessor and penitent were separated by a solid wall with a small window and a thick curtain.

    And remember when nuns would always travel in pairs.

    I'll bet there was less abuse in those days.
    Remember when the air was clean and sin was dirty?


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    Re: Abused nuns coming forward
    « Reply #5 on: July 30, 2018, 07:07:20 AM »
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  • What is most disturbing is that according to the widow of Dietrich Von Hildebrand, when Bella Dodd converted, it was Bishop Sheen who advised her NOT to reveal the name of the 1000's of infiltrators into the seminary who had arrived at position of power in the Church.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1173870/posts

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    Re: Abused nuns coming forward
    « Reply #6 on: July 30, 2018, 12:02:07 PM »
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  • Barnhardt said it today concisely:

    "The fact that McCarrick was an open sodomitical predator was considered a FEATURE, not a bug, and the higher he ascended, and the more powerful he became, the more valuable he became to those around him who sought to LEVERAGE CORRUPTION AND CRIMINALITY for their own gain, and the more intensely those around him covered for his crimes against young men and boys".

    Not only have we to weed out the pedarasts but more importantly the blackmailers as well??

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    Re: Abused nuns coming forward
    « Reply #7 on: July 31, 2018, 08:37:17 AM »
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  • Remember when the air was clean and sin was dirty?
                                                 
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    Re: Abused nuns coming forward
    « Reply #8 on: July 31, 2018, 12:48:11 PM »
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  • What is most disturbing is that according to the widow of Dietrich Von Hildebrand, when Bella Dodd converted, it was Bishop Sheen who advised her NOT to reveal the name of the 1000's of infiltrators into the seminary who had arrived at position of power in the Church.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1173870/posts

    When I was young, I attended a speech by Bishop Sheen. I was not impressed.

    The way he carried himself and his style of dress suggested that he could have been gay. He loved the limelight.

    Why did Bishop Sheen tell Bella Dodd not to reveal the names of the 1200 communist agent infiltrators in Catholic seminaries who had arrived at positions of power within the Roman Catholic Church? 

    Although Bella Dodd might have been killed for such a revelation, it might have spared the Church from the horrific loss of faith that occurred. Had she revealed the infiltrating rats, think of how many souls might have been saved, think of how many lives might have been saved, for these rats were also known to have killed devout bishops, priests, and seminarians who might have exposed them or prevented them from doing their nefarious deeds.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Abused nuns coming forward
    « Reply #9 on: July 31, 2018, 02:18:34 PM »
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  • The allegations may be true, who knows; but I'm very suspicious of the *me too* campaign in general.

    Also in the article, I notice a classic hint of female victimization here that feminists (and other enemies of the patriarchal Church) love to promote every time they can.

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    An examination by the AP shows that cases of abused nuns have emerged in Europe, Africa, South America and Asia, demonstrating that the problem is global and pervasive, thanks to the sisters' second-class status in the church and their ingrained subservience to the men who run it.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    Re: Abused nuns coming forward
    « Reply #10 on: July 31, 2018, 02:44:16 PM »
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  • The allegations may be true, who knows; but I'm very suspicious of the *me too* campaign in general.

    Also in the article, I notice a classic hint of female victimization here that feminists (and other enemies of the patriarchal Church) love to promote every time they can.
    I noticed this as well Cantarella and agree.  Part me wondered whether this was meant to show that the abusers aren't just homosexuals.  Not to mention, sisters in "full religious habit"?  Like there are droves of those in the NO. 
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17


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    Re: Abused nuns coming forward
    « Reply #11 on: July 31, 2018, 03:00:23 PM »
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  • I noticed this as well Cantarella and agree.  
    To Cantarella and 2Vermont, I say "Me too"


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    Re: Abused nuns coming forward
    « Reply #12 on: July 31, 2018, 03:34:27 PM »
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  • What is most disturbing is that according to the widow of Dietrich Von Hildebrand, when Bella Dodd converted, it was Bishop Sheen who advised her NOT to reveal the name of the 1000's of infiltrators into the seminary who had arrived at position of power in the Church.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1173870/posts
    Wow! Thank you for posting that link.
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    Re: Abused nuns coming forward
    « Reply #13 on: July 31, 2018, 04:24:48 PM »
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  • There are, or should be, systems to weed these types of people out before ordination.
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    This is part of the chastisement that Our Lady came to warn us about at Fatima.
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    The 3rd Secret was supposed to be released to the world in 1960 if Sr. Lucia had not died yet, but now it's looking like not only was the Secret not revealed, but Sr. Lucia might have died as well and if so, they hid the fact. So that makes two strikes.
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    Pope John XXIII issued an official document just for the eyes of bishops in about 1962, which forbade the acceptance of any seminary applicants who were known to have "homosexual tendencies." Therefore, you know that's proof positive that the problem was known to exist. If it was known by the Pope it was known by his advisers and by the cardinals. And we can't say he didn't do something about it. But we CAN say he didn't do enough about it.
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    We CAN say the Church does have procedures to handle this sort of thing but Modernist popes refuse to engage the procedures.
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    Pope St. Pius X wasn't afraid. Read the last 10 pages of Pascendi to see what procedures he put into operation to stomp out Modernism.
    Then read the Opening Statement of Vatican II read by John XXIII on October 11th, 1962, and compare notes. Not pretty.
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    So you would think the bishops would have paid attention to John XXIII when he gave them official instruction what to do about "homosexual tendencies." Well, no, actually you wouldn't think that, unless you're let's say poche or that ilk. The bishops don't pay attention to reprimands by the Holy Father unless they have TEETH and this one didn't even have dentures. So why would the bishops care what he says? What did the bishops do with the instruction? They put it on their immense book shelves and left it there. SOME copies were found decades later which obviously had not so much as ever been cracked open. Printer's resins still causing the edges of the pages to stick together. IOW the bishops ignored the direction of the Pope.
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    Not only did the bishops ignore the Pope. 

    What the bishops proceeded to do was diametrically opposite from what the Pope had instructed.
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    Seminaries all over the world turned to rejecting applicants because they did NOT have homosexual tendencies. I can't use quotation marks because that's not what they said. What they SAID was that so-and-so seemed to lack "pastoral sensitivity." Why? Because it appeared during interviews that he had an aversion toward homosexuals and therefore would not make a good pastor to care for the spiritual needs of homosexuals or whatever. Not their words. Their words were: "He did not have the necessary pastoral sensitivity."
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    What happened was, any seminarian who got caught praying the Rosary, studying Latin or studying the prayers of the Tradtional Latin Mass was expelled immediately -- of course, not officially for those reasons. They kept close tabs on all the seminarians and had record sheets of their performance on file, so they only had to find some other excuse for the record, like he was disrespectful of superiors, or habitually late, or didn't keep his shoes polished or didn't wear clean clothes or perhaps wore inappropriate clothing (they would change the dress code for certain events and any seminarian who did not comply with the change for that day got marked down for the infraction). But if you ask the expelled seminarian, he'd tell you, "I had been hiding in my closet to pray my Rosary and one day the Dean snuck in quietly and listened to my prayers, then opened the closet door to my surprise. Next thing you know I was officially expelled for disobedience and habitual tardiness."
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    Sean Johnson started a good thread on this very thing, how Modernism ultimately leads to Sodomy because it is the worship of false gods, and consequently carries the Romans One curse.
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    Re: Abused nuns coming forward
    « Reply #14 on: July 31, 2018, 10:37:46 PM »
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  • The allegations may be true, who knows; but I'm very suspicious of the *me too* campaign in general.

    Also in the article, I notice a classic hint of female victimization here that feminists (and other enemies of the patriarchal Church) love to promote every time they can.
    I agree the *me too* campaign is suspect BUT in the last 3 paragraphs it states this was a problem brought to the attention of Rome 30 years ago.
    Also in 1836 Maria Monk disclosed the same abuse only the nun's didn't have abortions, they gave birth, Baptised then strangled their babies, "giving Heaven an unsullied soul".
    Sometime I think we don't want to acknowledge how really bad some things were in the past.
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