Many here probably have already heard these two testimonies, but they corroborate each other, but from two vantage points on the same events.
The first is from Fr. Francis Miller, OFM, speaking at the CMRI Fatima Conference, who was with Abp. Thuc when basically drugged and kidnapped by the novus ordo, and the second is from Bp? Webster interviewed by Bro? Michael Dimond. I'm not promoting Dimonds, I don't care at all for them, so please don't kick a relative newcomer like me off, one who has contributed little to the forum, unlike some who contributed much to the forum and were kicked off recently.
Fr. Francis Miller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQqs76r2d2o
Bp? Webster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qqrMnzrED8