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ABL on Why the Society Should Talk With Rome
« on: September 05, 2011, 06:20:13 PM »
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  • For all those who think BF has taken a different path than ABL, I think this passage serves as a reminder of the Archbishop's vision of resolving this crisis, which BF is continuing to this day.

    http://www.sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/Apologia/Vol_three/Chapter_68.htm

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    Next Tuesday I am to meet Cardinal Ratzinger, who is without a doubtone of the cardinals closest to the Pope. Why am I going to Rome? Why am I going to see Cardinal Ratzinger?

    The Pope has appointed him as successor to the late Cardinal Seper. Cardinal Ratzinger's duties include liaising with me, with the Society, not as Prefect of the Congregation for the Faith, but as personal delegate of the Holy Father. When someone says to us, "You're against the Pope. You don't want to be in union with the Pope," they are wrong. We are working only to re establish Tradition in Rome. All my activities have only one purpose : that the Church may go on, that there may be no division in the Church.

    But how can we be certain that we are the ones to help the Church carry on? As Our Lord says, "A tree is judged by its fruit." What are the fruits of prayer? The most beautiful fruit of prayer is religious vocations. These souls who come to pray in our chapels are so drawn to Our Lord Jesus Christ that they think, "I've had enough of the world, I no longer want to live in the world, I want to live with Our Lord Jesus Christ, I want to give myself to Jesus forever. I will shut myself up in a convent and give my soul to God."

    Where are the real vocations? Where do they come from? Well now, these souls have found their vocation in traditional places of prayer, that is, in the Catholic Church. On the other hand, in the beautiful churches, in the grand cathedrals, there is now a sterility where vocations cannot take root. Or if there are some that take root, they are badly formed, they do not grow as Jesus wishes, as the Church has always wished. Consequently, where the fruits are, there is also the Church, the fruits of sanctity in the Church. For this reason we are sure that the day will corne (God alone knows when) when the Church will see that we are right and congratulate us for maintaining Tradition.

    This is why I am going to Rome next Tuesday. After so many visits, will this one be more fruitful than the others? I do not know. But I am doing it as a duty of conscience, so that, when the Good Lord calls me, He will not say that I have done nothing to help re establish Tradition. I am doing all that I can toward this goal. If it is the Good Lord's will that our leaders should in a sense desert us, well, that will be a great tribulation of the Church. But we do not have the right to be discouraged and say, "Since they are not listening to us, let us break with the bishops; there is no longer a Church, it is finished." No, the Church is still with us. If those in positions of leadership are not doing their duty, if they are bad shepherds, that is no reason for us to abandon them. We must trust in Providence. The Good Lord is with His Church; we have no right to abandon the Roman Catholic Church. And in doing everything we have a duty to do, we can be at peace.

    Let us continue to pray, to sanctify ourselves and to entrust ourselves to the Blessed Virgin Mary: she is our Mother in heaven who has already overcome all heresies. She will overcome this one too. Let us be confident!


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    ABL on Why the Society Should Talk With Rome
    « Reply #1 on: September 06, 2011, 05:28:22 AM »
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    For all those who think BF has taken a different path than ABL, I think this passage serves as a reminder of the Archbishop's vision of resolving this crisis, which BF is continuing to this day.


    So what happened over 20 years ago after the Archbishop tried this?  What did he do?  


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    ABL on Why the Society Should Talk With Rome
    « Reply #2 on: September 06, 2011, 06:21:00 AM »
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  • Quote from: Telesphorus
    So what happened over 20 years ago after the Archbishop tried this?  What did he do?  


    Rome realized the errors of their ways, re-converted to the Catholic Faith, suppressed Vatican II and all its fruits, commanded the whole world to return to the traditional Mass and other Sacraments, and the SSPX and all Catholics were once again completely and visibly unified in their efforts to evangelize the world and calling all Protestants, Orthodox, Muslibms, Jєωs, and Pagans to convert to the One True Church of the Almighty God.


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    ABL on Why the Society Should Talk With Rome
    « Reply #3 on: September 06, 2011, 07:24:26 AM »
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    For all those who think BF has taken a different path than ABL, I think this passage serves as a reminder of the Archbishop's vision of resolving this crisis, which BF is continuing to this day.


    So what happened over 20 years ago after the Archbishop tried this?  What did he do?  


    He did not accept the deal, but he definitely did not preclude the idea of continuing to talk to Rome going forward. His consistent policy was to always be available to the Pope and ready to discuss the crisis though not compromise.

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    ABL on Why the Society Should Talk With Rome
    « Reply #4 on: September 06, 2011, 09:03:01 AM »
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  • What Bishop Fellay is doing seems a bit different if you ask me.
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