Author Topic: A way to end the crisis in the Church! EASY (Read 1420 times)

Arborman · « **on:** July 18, 2009, 09:19:29 AM »

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So, we need to put aside our differences and come together. This does not mean we need to follow our priest or a pope if we feel he is in err...just look at all the evils and wrong doings of the modern Church of example. For to err is human and that is what we all do...includes a Pope or priest.

I totally agree with this. This very thing has been on my heart last night and today. Good people are everywhere, the constant fighting between trads hurts the whole movement. :argue:

Telesphorus · « **Reply #1 on:** July 18, 2009, 09:39:42 AM »

It's because we accept Papal Infallibility that we recognize there is a crisis.

If we did not know the teaching of the Church is unchanging and preserved from error, we would not know that what is happening now is terribly wrong.

Instead we could listen to the liberals say that the old Popes didn't have the right understanding of things. We could listen to Protestants and fall into their very serious errors.

CM · « **Reply #2 on:** July 18, 2009, 02:45:29 PM »

Even without the Divinely revealed truth of infallibility, we would still know that these current "popes" are not to be followed, nor is their "church" to be joined.

"By their fruits you shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, and the evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can an evil tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit, shall be cut down, and shall be cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them."

And Uriel, I disagree with your position. Good people everywhere?! Catholics must convert non-Catholics, and anyone who refuses to be converted is evil. That's the truth. And those non-Catholics who most appear to be Catholic are the most evil.

Anyone who denies God's words is evil, evil, evil.

Classiccom · « **Reply #3 on:** July 18, 2009, 04:23:57 PM »

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Even without the Divinely revealed truth of infallibility..

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You can take that belief to your grave and it may be very soon. If it was unholy to correct your earthly spiritual leadership, then Jesus Christ and St. Paul need correction from Club Infallible. I think not.

Club Infallible has been playing tiddley winks while the forces of the Antichrist are announcing check mate - game over.

Check out this Countdown Counter - 73 Days Left

I think 73 is communications lingo for over and out.

http://www.futurefastforward.com/

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The time for arguments is over.

Apocalypse 22:11

The time is near. 11 Let him that does unrighteously do unrighteously still; and let the filthy make himself filthy still; and let him that is righteous practise righteousness still; and he that is holy, let him be sanctified still.

Classiccom · « **Reply #4 on:** July 18, 2009, 06:10:04 PM »

Classiccom · « **Reply #5 on:** July 18, 2009, 06:26:45 PM »

Any connection with the Pope Benedict wrist injury?

Zech. 11:17, "Woe to the worthless shepherd who leaves the flock! A sword will be on his arm and on his right eye! His arm will be totally withered, and his right eye will be blind."

Elizabeth · « **Reply #6 on:** July 18, 2009, 06:40:23 PM »

And where are the traditional demonologists? Do we ever hear from them?

Infestation, obssession, possession are hardly uncommon, particularly with the monstrous amount of sɛҳuąƖ abuse of children and the drug epidemic-not to mention the infiltration of the Roman Catholic clergy by monsters in priest costumes.

Are there enough exorcists to go around? I'm thinking no, because there are barely enough priests. In our city, there are enormous, empty seminaries and convents everywhere.

I have seen enough scary stuff to convince me that some intervention by an exorcist in key areas might help this mess.

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #7 on:** July 18, 2009, 06:55:22 PM »

We know that v2 is wrong because we know that it spoke against many infallible dogmas. We say that Benedict XVI said many heretical thing because his words were contrary to infallible dogmas.
So V2, modernism, lutheranism and many other heresies become OK if there is no infalliblity.
If the Popes who declared EENS, perpetual virginity of our Lady and many other dogmas, were fallible (that is capable of error like us) then those heretics whom these pope attacked could be right!