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A Schizophrenic "Catholic" Youth Conference
« on: January 08, 2019, 12:26:59 AM »
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  • https://reignofmary.blogspot.com/2019/01/a-schizophrenic-catholic-youth.html

    A recent Novus Ordo youth conference called "SEEK 2019" was attended by 18,000 youths. Here is an article discussing and analysing numerous moral problems with that Conference, showing its really a microcosm of the entire conciliar Church.


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    Re: A Schizophrenic "Catholic" Youth Conference
    « Reply #1 on: January 08, 2019, 05:04:49 PM »
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  • I watched it on YouTube.  As wacky as the typical wacky evangelical TV in the USA.

    Bring your grandmother or her grandmother back to life and she would not recognise it as anything to do with Catholicism.


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    Re: A Schizophrenic "Catholic" Youth Conference
    « Reply #2 on: January 08, 2019, 06:00:00 PM »
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  • Notice in the picture of the large group of attendees, the front two rows consist of 22 people, 21 of whom are females. That's not necessarily significant, but I think it personifies the effeminate and feminist manifestation of the Novus Ordo. I wonder how many of these females aspire to take on "leadership" positions in their parish and become "Eucharistic ministers".
    From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die. ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

    International Women's Day is a day we all celebrate Eve's rebellion at the Tree and our plummet into sin.

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    Re: A Schizophrenic "Catholic" Youth Conference
    « Reply #3 on: January 08, 2019, 06:08:16 PM »
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  • Most of the presenters on the long youtube video were women too.

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    Re: A Schizophrenic "Catholic" Youth Conference
    « Reply #4 on: January 08, 2019, 06:21:07 PM »
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  • Acid test - 3 hours 6 mins.  What do they receive Holy Communion like?



    Do these people give you the impression they believe in the Real Presence?

    Forget the odd individual go for the aggregate or modal average.

    These are people with enough commitment to turn up at a Catholic conference.  The creme of the crop.  The future of the Novus Ordo Church.


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    Re: A Schizophrenic "Catholic" Youth Conference
    « Reply #5 on: January 08, 2019, 10:25:06 PM »
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  • Acid test - 3 hours 6 mins.  What do they receive Holy Communion like?



    Do these people give you the impression they believe in the Real Presence?

    Forget the odd individual go for the aggregate or modal average.

    These are people with enough commitment to turn up at a Catholic conference.  The creme of the crop.  The future of the Novus Ordo Church.

    Church Pop meets TED Talks meets Emotionalism meets Bastardized Liturgy
    From the woman came the beginning of sin, and by her we all die. ~ Ecclesiasticus 25:33

    International Women's Day is a day we all celebrate Eve's rebellion at the Tree and our plummet into sin.

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    Re: A Schizophrenic "Catholic" Youth Conference
    « Reply #6 on: January 09, 2019, 03:00:24 AM »
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  • Typical novus ordo....3 hour talk and yet ZERO doctrine was taught.  Just vague references to Jesus and loving God....  

    I have seen some of that "priests"' videos' on youtube.   For the most part they teach catholic truths, but with no condemnations, and with okays if you don't believe in the truth.  Truth plus feel goody nonsense...

    I have been through many of those kind of talks, being raised in a upper class novus ordo church.  I remember me and my 'friend' almost being kicked out because we were laughing at a so called 'sermon'.  We knew it was BS...at the time I did not know of the traditional church, but being of good will God showed me, and I accepted it, saving me from agnosticism. 

    I am a fact that no such baptism of desire exists.  As I lived through this kind of feel good EWTN' Catholicism, God showed me the true faith, using the internet.  I have almost died, multiple times throughout my life (not an exaggeration), and I lived; and like the Eunuch in Africa, God showed me the truth, as I was of good will.  I play with my sons like a brother, but teach them like a stern father, for 'blessed are the children'.  I am a child, a child of God.  Hopefully there are other children at this conference, for they too will become real Catholics.

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    Re: A Schizophrenic "Catholic" Youth Conference
    « Reply #7 on: January 09, 2019, 03:03:42 AM »
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  • Typical novus ordo....3 hour talk and yet ZERO doctrine was taught.  Just vague references to Jesus and loving God....  

    I have seen some of that "priests"' videos' on youtube.   For the most part they teach catholic truths, but with no condemnations, and with okays if you don't believe in the truth.  Truth plus feel goody nonsense...

    I have been through many of those kind of talks, being raised in a upper class novus ordo church.  I remember me and my 'friend' almost being kicked out because we were laughing at a so called 'sermon'.  We knew it was BS...at the time I did not know of the traditional church, but being of good will God showed me, and I accepted it, saving me from agnosticism.

    I am a fact that no such baptism of desire exists.  As I lived through this kind of feel good EWTN' Catholicism, God showed me the true faith, using the internet.  I have almost died, multiple times throughout my life (not an exaggeration), and I lived; and like the Eunuch in Africa, God showed me the truth, as I was of good will.  I play with my sons like a brother, but teach them like a stern father, for 'blessed are the children'.  I am a child, a child of God.  Hopefully there are other children at this conference, for they too will become real Catholics.
    Just like Br Maluf MICM was of good will too. And proof no such BoD exists.  He was born in Lebanon and he said he found out later in life he was secretly baptized at birth by a servant.  God gives us the true faith and salvation, he does not need a hypothetical BoD.  


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    Re: A Schizophrenic "Catholic" Youth Conference
    « Reply #8 on: January 09, 2019, 03:28:29 AM »
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  • Where is the next one?  I might turn up at it and ask them to interview on YouTube and then ask them basic questions about the Creed and from the Cathecism.

    I bet many of them cannot name the 10 Commandments.

    This is my standard response to people claiming to be Catholic or Christian and Church going. " Name the 10 Commandments ".  "If you can do it in order, Protestant or Catholic order according to their preference, I will give you 20 pounds."

    It is rare that they can make it to 5.

    Coverting neighbours goods, wife, bearing false witness, not taking God's name in vain and honouring parents are the least frequent.  Not Kill, steal the most commonly quoted.  Almost nobody knows the 1st Commandment.  It is never quoted correctly.  Not even 50% correct.

    It really is the Church of Nithe.

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    Re: A Schizophrenic "Catholic" Youth Conference
    « Reply #9 on: January 09, 2019, 10:17:23 AM »
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  • When I was younger I used to go to Father Stan Fortunas church concerts. He’d ask pretty simple questions about faith, and very few knew answers. He’s then turn to start doing some pretty odd minded music. I stopped going because it wasn’t even about becoming a better Catholic, or a deeper relationship with God. It was about being a “cool” Catholic. That’s all these things are.... growing up some kids thought it was cool being Catholic, but only as a fashion statement. 

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    Re: A Schizophrenic "Catholic" Youth Conference
    « Reply #10 on: January 18, 2019, 04:15:16 PM »
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  • When I was younger I used to go to Father Stan Fortunas church concerts. He’d ask pretty simple questions about faith, and very few knew answers. He’s then turn to start doing some pretty odd minded music. I stopped going because it wasn’t even about becoming a better Catholic, or a deeper relationship with God. It was about being a “cool” Catholic. That’s all these things are.... growing up some kids thought it was cool being Catholic, but only as a fashion statement.
    The mistaken belief that if you can dilute the faith you can prevent people apostatising. In reality all that changes is a few more people remain Catholic in name only, but still lose the faith, and many more who would've remained proper Catholics are misled into the diluted faith. 


     

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