Author Topic: A POST DEAL SSPX (Read 7216 times)

John Grace · « **Reply #5 on:** May 06, 2012, 09:01:57 AM »

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If the SSPX signs a deal with Rome then it doesn't seem likely that they will criticize the N.O.M. anymore, this being the O.F. of the Conciliar Church. There will be people who will question the need of continuing to make long journeys every Sunday to get to an SSPX TLM when a N.O.M. is available nearby.

I agree it is quite possible that the SSPX criticizing the NO will become a thing of the past shortly - with or without a bogus reconciliation. Consider that many (most?) of this past generation or so of new SSPX priests were never really exposed to the NO per se. Many were raised away from the NO and perhaps even schooled K through 12 at SSPX schools. Other than hearsay and unlike SSPX priests ordained during the PPVI and JPII era, what real life experiences will they have had with the NO to speak about let alone criticize?

It just seems like those who actually fought in or at least witnessed the early battle are the most vocal, while those who have been at least somewhat sheltered are far enough out of touch with the tragedy of the situation that they simply avoid speaking about things they know very little about over all.

I dunno, I was speaking with three young SSPX priests a few months back and while they are devout and all, the impression I got was what I wrote above. Made me wonder what the SSPX priests will be like 2 or 3 generations from now when this is all ancient history.

All the more reason for such young priests to heed Bishop Williamson. An Irish seminarian is due for ordination and quite devoted to the writings of Fr Denis Fahey. Hopefully these clerics are solid on the Jews. Things fall in to place naturally when one is aware of the Jews.

I'm aware of a strange encounter where a boy aged 12 had to educate a Swiss SSPX seminarian on the Jews. Being solid on the Jews is essential for any priest.

s2srea · « **Reply #6 on:** May 06, 2012, 09:05:23 AM »

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I dunno, I was speaking with three young SSPX priests a few months back and while they are devout and all, the impression I got was what I wrote above. Made me wonder what the SSPX priests will be like 2 or 3 generations from now when this is all ancient history.

Complete and utter negligence on the part of the Society in not instructing their seminarians on the very reasons for their existence.

This is actually inaccurate Francisco. They instruct their seminarians on these issues as well as anyone.

John Grace · « **Reply #7 on:** May 06, 2012, 09:10:36 AM »

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I dunno, I was speaking with three young SSPX priests a few months back and while they are devout and all, the impression I got was what I wrote above. Made me wonder what the SSPX priests will be like 2 or 3 generations from now when this is all ancient history.

Complete and utter negligence on the part of the Society in not instructing their seminarians on the very reasons for their existence.

This is actually inaccurate Francisco. They instruct their seminarians on these issues as well as anyone.

Don't worry. There are well informed laity in the pews. I don't doubt for a moment there are devout and holy Society priests.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #8 on:** May 06, 2012, 12:53:09 PM »

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I dunno, I was speaking with three young SSPX priests a few months back and while they are devout and all, the impression I got was what I wrote above. Made me wonder what the SSPX priests will be like 2 or 3 generations from now when this is all ancient history.

Complete and utter negligence on the part of the Society in not instructing their seminarians on the very reasons for their existence.

This is actually inaccurate Francisco. They instruct their seminarians on these issues as well as anyone.

Don't worry. There are well informed laity in the pews. I don't doubt for a moment there are devout and holy Society priests.

Not at my chapel.

All I hear about is "getting the right deal."

That is what the debate centers on.

Apparently, all have forgotten that ABL categorically refused to consider any terms of a practical solution while the doctrinal issues remained.

Bishop Fellay has played his game well by framing the argument within these confines.

The laity are stupid for the most part, with only instinct to guide them.

It is amazing and depressing to see how many have not understood that ABL was fighting for the greater Church, not the rights of the SSPX.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #9 on:** May 06, 2012, 01:04:41 PM »

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The laity are stupid for the most part, with only instinct to guide them.

If the SSPX chapel is thought from the perspective of networking, then a deal is a great way to extend contacts.

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It is amazing and depressing to see how many have not understood that ABL was fighting for the greater Church, not the rights of the SSPX.

Yes, it really is mind-blowing. Selling the birth right for "papal" pottage.