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Offline John Grace

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How did Bp. Fellay become head of the SSPX?
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2012, 08:39:59 AM »
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  • Not everybody attending the SSPX were beguiled by these Rosary crusades. In Ireland people told the clerics straight out what they thought of them and Bishop Fellay.

    As the post on the  'Oblationem' video states
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    It’s our own fault by not protesting (at the time) what Bp. Fellay has said about Vatican II, and his Ideological persecution inside SSPX. We always thought he was working for our benefit, but the SSPX has metamorphosed into a vehicle of the New Order - just like the VII frog in the pot of water. If he can’t be voted out at the next Chapter, the SSPX is done for. Good priests, yes – but faulty leadership.


    A clear admission of the lack of protest and naive mindset among some attending SSPX but also a clear statement this current leadership must go.

    I agree it is time Bishop Fellay was ousted.


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    How did Bp. Fellay become head of the SSPX?
    « Reply #16 on: May 06, 2012, 08:43:14 AM »
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    We always thought he was working for our benefit


    See what thought did to these people. Bishop Fellay took them for fools. Those that can think for themselves know better.


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    How did Bp. Fellay become head of the SSPX?
    « Reply #17 on: May 06, 2012, 08:49:27 AM »
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    either the current leadership is deposed, or ABL is deposed. The two contradict each other. They cannot both stand as the principle of the same house. This to me is the import of the sign from Heaven.


    I certainly welcome the letter from the other three Bishops.

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    How did Bp. Fellay become head of the SSPX?
    « Reply #18 on: May 06, 2012, 02:54:03 PM »
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    Well stated, cantatedomino
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    Dear Dawn Marie,

    I understand you and I respect your opinion. I do not take what you say lightly. But I think two things: One, we are at war, and when at war we have to be decisive. The SSPX has been hijacked. You might not use that term. It is a harsh term. But I have been reading your posts for weeks, and you are saying that in essence. Two, one or another of the following is inevitable - either the current leadership is deposed, or ABL is deposed. The two contradict each other. They cannot both stand as the principle of the same house. This to me is the import of the sign from Heaven.

    We see that the Archbishop's counsels are being ignored. Soon his position will be abandoned and SSPX seminarians will be formed according to a new spirit.

    War is disgusting, hard, violent, and heart wrenching; but, as Our Lord said: From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent bear it away. Matthew 11:12

    If we do not practice heroic militancy now, we will lose everything.

    One last thought - Bishop Fellay has already expelled several SSPX priests from the order for voicing an objection to his policies or telling the truth about Rome. Bishop Fellay is warring violently against those who resist the path he has chosen. The sound bites he is releasing now are a warning. He is delivering to us the neo-SSPX party line. Those who defect from it will be expelled, either directly or by unrelenting pressure. Bishop Fellay will brook no opposition inside the order.

    Of course we must pray for his soul, but if he is dangerous to our souls, then we must ask God to remove Him.

    Thank you, Dawn Marie, for voicing your feelings about this. I know in the end, we are both praying for the same end, if not the same means.

    God bless you!


       Great post.

       Just look what has happened since Bishop Fellay abandoned the principles of Archbishop Lefebvre, and began negotiating for a practical solution with Rome, while all the doctrinal issues remain unresolved:

    1) SSPX.org: Regularly features mundane and irrelevent articles on Novus Ordo happenings; quotes from modernist Nocus Ordo clergy; even when it quotes good old-fashioned SSPX stuff like the 1974 declaration, it uses the Rome-friendly excerpts on the homepage (e.g., "We cling to eternal Rome....")

    2) Angelus Press: Publishes the revised/modern Michael Davies trilogy containing defenses of the heretical Dominus Iesus, and the absurd/heretical claim that "the Orthodox bishops possess formal apostolicity" (as opposed to mere material apostolicity, meaning episcopal continuity); publishes articles on Jєωιѕн Rabbis; defends the doubtful new rite of episcopal consecration;re etc

    3) Communiques from Menzingen/DICI: Rome-friendly exhortations to whip the clergy and laity into line to accept a deal; total abandonement of the well-publicized "no deal until the doctrinal issues are resolved position

    4) Nauseating blather coddling the "gracious gestures from Rome" r. Schmidberger

    5) Claiming Archbishop Lefebvre would have signed!!! (Fr. Pfluger)

    6) Claiming we cannot be 1988ers (Fr. Simmoulin)

    7) The exile of Bishop Williamson

    8) Schism within the SSPX for the 1st time ("3 oppose 1")

    9) Banishment of those who hold to the principles of ABL

    Prediction: After Bishop Fellay signs, he will call those of us who hold fast "schismatics" just like he condemned Campos for, after they signed.

    Every SSPXer should paste Bishop Fellay's "Letter of the Superior General #63" to their wall and read it daily; you are heading down that road right now.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    How did Bp. Fellay become head of the SSPX?
    « Reply #19 on: May 06, 2012, 02:55:42 PM »
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    either the current leadership is deposed, or ABL is deposed. The two contradict each other. They cannot both stand as the principle of the same house. This to me is the import of the sign from Heaven.


    I certainly welcome the letter from the other three Bishops.


    What letter?
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    How did Bp. Fellay become head of the SSPX?
    « Reply #20 on: May 09, 2012, 01:29:44 PM »
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    Bishop Fellay Condemns.......Bishop Fellay.


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