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Offline s2srea

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98 of the SSPX would reject any agreement
« on: November 30, 2011, 11:21:43 AM »
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  • Saw this on Ignis Ardens, thought it was interesting:

    Romano Libero from Golias, the progresist magazine:

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    In Rome, the announcement has really made the announcement of a cold shower. This is  the piece of news which spreads out on all the fundamentalists sites. 98% of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X would reject any agreement with Rome. Bishop Bernard Fellay, the Superior General of the Society, put in minority, is therefore in a very unfortunate position and he risks even to have to abandon his position (while remaining bishop).

    It is in any case a failure for Benedict XVI and Bishop Guido Pozzo, secretary of the Commission "Ecclesia Dei". Not only the harshness of the position of fundamentalists was not decreased, but increased. As if many of Lefebvrists felt they narrowly escaped a mortal danger, that of a recovery by Rome. In addition, three of the four bishops ordained by Archbishop Lefebvre would not only be opposed but deeply hostile to this project.

    The massive refusal of the fundamentalists holds in fact the feeling that on the  deep down, Rome was in reality inclined to make no concession. So it would be, from their point of view, a pure and simple fool's bargain.

    One hypothesis currently circulating is that of a "schism within the schism," but not in the way feared at the start of a break from the hardest ones. On the contrary it is the handle which deeply wished the reconciliation with Rome which would choose to become reconciled and could be even set up as a small society of apostolic life with Bishop Fellay in the head. Among the priests susceptible to join it we speak, among others, Fathers Gregoire Célier,  Alain Lorans, the german Franz Schmidberger, considered... liberals by the rest of the Brotherhood.

    For all, a dozen people. It is certain that the commemoration of the meeting is certainly instrumental in the decision of many traditionalists far less extreme not to respond positively to Rome. But there is certainly a less worthy reason to hardening. That of an evident loss of autonomy and power of fundamentalist leaders, until now small tyrants, to account to anyone. Father Beauvais, self-proclaimed  priest of Saint Nicolas du Chardonnet denounces for the part of Rome "a process of deceit."


    Offline Canute

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    98 of the SSPX would reject any agreement
    « Reply #1 on: November 30, 2011, 04:11:15 PM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
    Saw this on Ignis Ardens, thought it was interesting:

    Romano Libero from Golias, the progresist magazine:

    Original Source in French


    QUOTE:
    In Rome, the announcement has really made the announcement of a cold shower. This is  the piece of news which spreads out on all the fundamentalists sites. 98% of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X would reject any agreement with Rome. Bishop Bernard Fellay, the Superior General of the Society, put in minority, is therefore in a very unfortunate position and he risks even to have to abandon his position (while remaining bishop).

    It is in any case a failure for Benedict XVI and Bishop Guido Pozzo, secretary of the Commission "Ecclesia Dei". Not only the harshness of the position of fundamentalists was not decreased, but increased. As if many of ####s felt they narrowly escaped a mortal danger, that of a recovery by Rome. In addition, three of the four bishops ordained by Archbishop Lefebvre would not only be opposed but deeply hostile to this project.

    The massive refusal of the fundamentalists holds in fact the feeling that on the  deep down, Rome was in reality inclined to make no concession. So it would be, from their point of view, a pure and simple fool's bargain.

    One hypothesis currently circulating is that of a "schism within the schism," but not in the way feared at the start of a break from the hardest ones. On the contrary it is the handle which deeply wished the reconciliation with Rome which would choose to become reconciled and could be even set up as a small society of apostolic life with Bishop Fellay in the head. Among the priests susceptible to join it we speak, among others, Fathers Gregoire Célier,  Alain Lorans, the german Franz Schmidberger, considered... liberals by the rest of the Brotherhood.

    For all, a dozen people. It is certain that the commemoration of the meeting is certainly instrumental in the decision of many traditionalists far less extreme not to respond positively to Rome. But there is certainly a less worthy reason to hardening. That of an evident loss of autonomy and power of fundamentalist leaders, until now small tyrants, to account to anyone. Father Beauvais, self-proclaimed  priest of Saint Nicolas du Chardonnet denounces for the part of Rome "a process of deceit."

     Lay friends who are close to the higher SSPX clergy in France told me they believe that the OPPOSITE of this would happen, that is, that nearly all the French SSPX clergy would go along with a reconciliation because of the faith they have in Bishop Fellay, and that there would be no significant internal break.

    I constantly go back and forth trying to figure out what SSPX will finally do, but everything seems so speculative and impossible to predict.


    Offline Elizabeth

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    98 of the SSPX would reject any agreement
    « Reply #2 on: November 30, 2011, 07:58:30 PM »
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    I constantly go back and forth trying to figure out what SSPX will finally do, but everything seems so speculative and impossible to predict.


    Yep.

    Offline s2srea

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    98 of the SSPX would reject any agreement
    « Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 08:10:05 PM »
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    I constantly go back and forth trying to figure out what SSPX will finally do, but everything seems so speculative and impossible to predict.


    Yep.


    That's where I'm at right now too. I'm not going to pretend that I know everything or can read minds. That's why I keep trying to get out both 'sides' of the issue.