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Offline Petertherock

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70 of US Catholics dont believe in the Real Presence
« on: June 03, 2014, 07:36:15 AM »
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  • This is very old news from 1992...Imagine what the number is now!

    According to a Gallup poll, 70% of Catholics view the Body & Blood of Our Lord as merely "symbolic".

    Two years later, a New York Times/CBS News poll showed resu...lts of almost 2/3 of Catholics not believing in the Real Presence either.

    "In 1992, Reverend Peter Stravinskas, a well-known Catholic apologist and editor of The Catholic Answer, obtained funds from the Saint Augustine Center Association and hired the Gallup Organization to conduct a national poll asking Catholics: "Which one of the following statements about Holy Communion do you think best reflects your belief?" Only 30 percent of the respondents chose the first option: "When receiving Holy Communion, you are really and truly receiving the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ, under the appearance of bread and wine" (which Stravinskas interpreted as the "orthodox" Catholic view). Twenty-nine percent indicated "you are receiving bread and wine, which symbolize the spirit and teachings of Jesus and in so doing are expressing your attachment to His person and words." Twenty-four percent believed "you are receiving the Body and Blood of Christ, which has become that because of your personal belief." Ten percent said "you are receiving bread and wine, in which Jesus is really and truly present." Finally, 8 percent said "none of the above," "don't know," or refused to answer. "

    "Two years later, the New York Times (June 1, 1994) reported the results of a New York Times/CBS News poll on Catholics and their beliefs about the Real Presence (see also Commonweal, January 27, 1995). In this poll, Catholics were asked whether the bread and wine used in the Eucharist are "changed into the body and blood of Christ," or are "symbolic reminders of Christ." The reporter, Peter Steinfels, concluded that "almost two-thirds of American Catholics believe that during Mass, the central sacred ritual of Catholicism, the bread and wine can best be understood as 'symbolic reminders of Christ' rather than as actually being changed into Christ's body and blood." He also wrote: "Even among the subgroups of Catholics who said they attended Mass every week or almost every week, 51 percent described the rites as strictly symbolic." As further evidence of a "hollowing out" of belief in this vital area, Steinfels reported that young Catholics are more likely than older ones (70 percent vs. 45 percent) to hold the symbolic view. "



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    70 of US Catholics dont believe in the Real Presence
    « Reply #1 on: June 03, 2014, 08:14:47 AM »
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  • Proof that Vatican II, the novus ordo is not of God, for we are told; "by their fruits you WILL KNOW THEM."  Meaning look at their results.  

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    « Reply #2 on: June 03, 2014, 08:22:40 AM »
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  • For all we know, they might be right, since the Novus Ordo Mass could very well be invalid.

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    70 of US Catholics dont believe in the Real Presence
    « Reply #3 on: June 03, 2014, 09:19:09 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    For all we know, they might be right, since the Novus Ordo Mass could very well be invalid.


    You beat me to that one ... I was going to say, now we just have to enlighten the other 30% of Novus Ordites about the invalidity of their "priesthood" and sacramental forms....

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    70 of US Catholics dont believe in the Real Presence
    « Reply #4 on: June 03, 2014, 09:31:08 AM »
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  • They didn't even have to take a survey.  If 70% of those who called themselves catholics were in a New Order, that is it!  There is no Precious Blood, therefore no one can believe in true Presence.  I can't tell you how many New Order say, "I know that the Mass is not valid, but if I believe, then He is there.  So, what good is a priest, right? They soon go to another thought, then I can hold, touch, give out the wafer and such.  


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    70 of US Catholics dont believe in the Real Presence
    « Reply #5 on: June 03, 2014, 02:37:14 PM »
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  • The catechesis techniques of the novus ordo is so mediocre and so lousy and produces such rotten fruit that it must be this way by design.  

    However, I think 100% of the SSPXer's at St. Mary's Assumption Catholic Church in St. Louis, MO believe in the Real Presence.  

    Similarly high numbers will be found in the CMRI and independent Catholic parishes.  

    The Conciliar Church is letting the cancer eat away at its very core.  Our job is to not get smashed by the debris that is falling from the decaying towers.  

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    « Reply #6 on: June 03, 2014, 03:39:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    For all we know, they might be right, since the Novus Ordo Mass could very well be invalid.


    Yes, they are probably right!