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Offline cathman7

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« on: March 29, 2016, 12:16:26 PM »
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  • I am not sure when this talk was given. I believe it was given at Fr. Hector Bolduc's chapel in New Hampshire.

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    « Reply #1 on: April 04, 2016, 03:41:34 PM »
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  • This was a pretty good talk, but I believe canon hesse is wrong when it comes to heart transplants.  The position that I understand is traditional is that heart transplants are doubtful.  And, they are doubtful because we cannot determine the true point of death.  And, in many cases, doctors are rushing to conclusions.  Because, a live heart, or one as close to living is needed for transplants.  But, canon hesse doesn't talk about that.  Without scruple, he appears to think it is okay.  Start listening at minute 148:30.  

    Hesse also talks immediately after about how he agrees with Paul VI when it comes to eating already dead human flesh in emergency situations.  And, I am not convinced that I would do that.  I didn't hear of any "moral" cannibalism having occurred when reading about the ukrainians(many were christians) who were starved by stalin in the 1930s.  They ate the flesh of trees(bark) yes, but they weren't eating the flesh of dead humans.  They may not have lived on physically.  But, they live on in my memory.  And, many events of history are forgotten, and for good reason.  But, I won't be forgetting about them.  
    "A secure mind is like a continual feast" - Proverbs xv: 15


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    « Reply #2 on: April 05, 2016, 03:13:38 PM »
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  • Quote from: PG

    Hesse also talks immediately after about how he agrees with Paul VI when it comes to eating already dead human flesh in emergency situations.  And, I am not convinced that I would do that.  I didn't hear of any "moral" cannibalism having occurred when reading about the ukrainians(many were christians) who were starved by stalin in the 1930s.


    Paul VI brought this subject up?  It's pure тαℓмυd theologizing.  It really is the kind of talk that Jєωs engage in.  For instance, Jєωs are forbidden from eating pork but if stuck on a desert island with no chance of being rescued, Jєωs are permitted to eat pork.  The fact that Paul VI brought this up makes me wonder what kind of a "man" was Mr. Montini?  

    Jєωs often make derogatory remarks about Christianity by comparing it to cannibalism.  And enemies of the church who may be pretending to be friends of the church will often unwittingly use the terminology and phraseology of our enemies.  


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    « Reply #3 on: April 05, 2016, 07:14:32 PM »
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  • Quote from: Capt McQuigg
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    Hesse also talks immediately after about how he agrees with Paul VI when it comes to eating already dead human flesh in emergency situations.  And, I am not convinced that I would do that.  I didn't hear of any "moral" cannibalism having occurred when reading about the ukrainians(many were christians) who were starved by stalin in the 1930s.


    Paul VI brought this subject up?  It's pure тαℓмυd theologizing.  It really is the kind of talk that Jєωs engage in.  For instance, Jєωs are forbidden from eating pork but if stuck on a desert island with no chance of being rescued, Jєωs are permitted to eat pork.  The fact that Paul VI brought this up makes me wonder what kind of a "man" was Mr. Montini?  

    Jєωs often make derogatory remarks about Christianity by comparing it to cannibalism.  And enemies of the church who may be pretending to be friends of the church will often unwittingly use the terminology and phraseology of our enemies.  



    Supposedly he wore some Jєωιѕн trinket, and his Jєωιѕн ancestry is a matter of record.

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    « Reply #4 on: April 05, 2016, 09:08:14 PM »
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  • captmcquigg - apparently paul vi "pardoned" the group that crash landed their plane in the andes.  And, to survive, they ate the passengers who died.   What worries me more is that canon hesse has absolutely no scruple about it.  You can tell because he cracks a joke about it, saying that he wouldn't mind at all being eaten by his friends, so long as they use salt and pepper.  
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    « Reply #5 on: April 06, 2016, 10:32:13 AM »
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  • Eating dead human flesh?  Solent Green?

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    « Reply #6 on: April 06, 2016, 12:54:17 PM »
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  • capt mcquig - I remember reading one of +lefebvres books, and in it he talked about how in the early church we kept some of our beliefs secret because we didn't want the pagan romans to think that we were cannibals.  And, I will be honest, I found the way he approached the topic by way of cannibalism disturbing.  I am recalling from memory, as I no longer have the book.  But, I believe it was in defense of the silent voice the priest uses at the consecration.  It was awkward.
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    « Reply #7 on: April 06, 2016, 01:41:14 PM »
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  • songbird - this is why they describe the red line as thin.  
    "A secure mind is like a continual feast" - Proverbs xv: 15