Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: 254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass  (Read 1642 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Augstine Baker

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 985
  • Reputation: +274/-1
  • Gender: Male
    • h
254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass
« on: January 10, 2012, 11:32:21 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0

  • Since the Motu Proprio, Summorum Pontificuм of Pope Benedict XVI was put into effect in 2007 the following Bishops and Cardinals have celebrated the Immemorial Mass of All Ages.  The Spanish blog Acción Litúrgica has compiled the following list.

    http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2012/01/254-cardinals-and-bishops-have.html



    Offline Sigismund

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5386
    • Reputation: +3121/-44
    • Gender: Male
    254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass
    « Reply #1 on: January 10, 2012, 08:10:51 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • And yet the Bishop of Rome is not one of them.   :scratchchin:
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


    Offline s2srea

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5106
    • Reputation: +3896/-48
    • Gender: Male
    254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass
    « Reply #2 on: January 10, 2012, 08:12:38 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: Sigismund
    And yet the Bishop of Rome is not one of them.   :scratchchin:


    Now you're just being negative against the pope, geesh  :rolleyes:

    Offline s2srea

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5106
    • Reputation: +3896/-48
    • Gender: Male
    254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass
    « Reply #3 on: January 10, 2012, 08:14:15 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Its funny they mention the SSPX bishops, yet not other Traditionalists...?

    Offline Augstine Baker

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 985
    • Reputation: +274/-1
    • Gender: Male
      • h
    254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass
    « Reply #4 on: January 10, 2012, 09:52:07 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: s2srea
    Its funny they mention the SSPX bishops, yet not other Traditionalists...?


    Most people don't know that much about Bishop Dolan, for example, especially coming from Spain.



    Offline s2srea

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5106
    • Reputation: +3896/-48
    • Gender: Male
    254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass
    « Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 09:04:16 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: Augstine Baker
    Quote from: s2srea
    Its funny they mention the SSPX bishops, yet not other Traditionalists...?


    Most people don't know that much about Bishop Dolan, for example, especially coming from Spain.



    Fair enough, but I think it has less to do with the lack of notoriety amongst other Traditional bishops, than with the Society's favorable position with Rome currently; which is understandable.

    Offline Roman Catholic

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2679
    • Reputation: +397/-0
    • Gender: Male
    254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass
    « Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 09:23:16 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: s2srea
    Quote from: Augstine Baker
    Quote from: s2srea
    Its funny they mention the SSPX bishops, yet not other Traditionalists...?


    Most people don't know that much about Bishop Dolan, for example, especially coming from Spain.



    Fair enough, but I think it has less to do with the lack of notoriety amongst other Traditional bishops, than with the Society's favorable position with Rome currently; which is understandable.


    I agree. In the Novus Ordo's current scheme of things the other traditional bishops are of little or no significance.

    Offline Augstine Baker

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 985
    • Reputation: +274/-1
    • Gender: Male
      • h
    254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass
    « Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 11:13:44 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Perhaps it has to do with the righteousness and holiness of the founder of the Society and the justice of their cause which is the restoration of all things to Christ?


    Offline Sigismund

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5386
    • Reputation: +3121/-44
    • Gender: Male
    254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass
    « Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 06:23:31 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: s2srea
    Quote from: Sigismund
    And yet the Bishop of Rome is not one of them.   :scratchchin:


    Now you're just being negative against the pope, geesh  :rolleyes:


    Gee, no one here EVER does that.   :wink:
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

    Offline s2srea

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5106
    • Reputation: +3896/-48
    • Gender: Male
    254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass
    « Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 06:42:24 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • lol  :cheers:

    Offline TKGS

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5767
    • Reputation: +4620/-480
    • Gender: Male
    254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass
    « Reply #10 on: January 12, 2012, 07:05:24 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I wonder how many of them are truly moved by the traditional Mass and how many of them do it once or twice to "demonstrate" to the local "traditional community" that they are "friendly" to tradition and then go right back to their balloon masses.  Possibly...all of them?

    When a Conciliar bishop says the traditional Mass it is almost always (if not always) for show.  They really and truly see no intrinsic value; it's just the preference of a small minority that they feel they have to placate.

    The Conciliar bishop who says the traditional Mass once and then returns to the service he really enjoys where he can express himself and watch the adoring faces of his fans is, I think, worse that then bishop who spurns the traditional Mass completely.  At least the latter isn't making a mockery of the Holy Sacrifice of the Altar.


    Offline Augstine Baker

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 985
    • Reputation: +274/-1
    • Gender: Male
      • h
    254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass
    « Reply #11 on: January 12, 2012, 09:49:32 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: TKGS
    I wonder how many of them are truly moved by the traditional Mass and how many of them do it once or twice to "demonstrate" to the local "traditional community" that they are "friendly" to tradition and then go right back to their balloon masses.  Possibly...all of them?

    When a Conciliar bishop says the traditional Mass it is almost always (if not always) for show.  They really and truly see no intrinsic value; it's just the preference of a small minority that they feel they have to placate.

    The Conciliar bishop who says the traditional Mass once and then returns to the service he really enjoys where he can express himself and watch the adoring faces of his fans is, I think, worse that then bishop who spurns the traditional Mass completely.  At least the latter isn't making a mockery of the Holy Sacrifice of the Altar.


    When there are any indicators that things are improving and there is an overall change in direction, it's always good to have a growser in the wings who probably gave up on the Catholic Faith a long time ago and just comments on forums every once in a while to vent his spleen.


    Offline Simple Catholic

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 60
    • Reputation: +48/-0
    • Gender: Male
    254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass
    « Reply #12 on: January 14, 2012, 06:45:55 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: Augstine Baker
    Quote from: TKGS
    I wonder how many of them are truly moved by the traditional Mass and how many of them do it once or twice to "demonstrate" to the local "traditional community" that they are "friendly" to tradition and then go right back to their balloon masses.  Possibly...all of them?

    When a Conciliar bishop says the traditional Mass it is almost always (if not always) for show.  They really and truly see no intrinsic value; it's just the preference of a small minority that they feel they have to placate.

    The Conciliar bishop who says the traditional Mass once and then returns to the service he really enjoys where he can express himself and watch the adoring faces of his fans is, I think, worse that then bishop who spurns the traditional Mass completely.  At least the latter isn't making a mockery of the Holy Sacrifice of the Altar.


    When there are any indicators that things are improving and there is an overall change in direction, it's always good to have a growser in the wings who probably gave up on the Catholic Faith a long time ago and just comments on forums every once in a while to vent his spleen.



    Things aren't always as they appear.  It may seem like there is an improvement, or that there is a change in direction, but whether there truly is remains to be seen.

    Besides, they will allow an occasional traditional Catholic Mass, but they won't allow the traditional Catholic Faith that should accompany it to give it any meaning.

    Offline Gregory I

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 1542
    • Reputation: +659/-108
    • Gender: Male
    254 Cardinals and Bishops Have Celebrated the Immemorial Mass
    « Reply #13 on: January 14, 2012, 07:07:26 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: s2srea
    Quote from: Sigismund
    And yet the Bishop of Rome is not one of them.   :scratchchin:


    Now you're just being negative against the pope, geesh  :rolleyes:


    What Pope?  :roll-laugh2:
    'Take care not to resemble the multitude whose knowledge of God's will only condemns them to more severe punishment.'

    -St. John of Avila