I think John Paul II did a lot of horrible things to undermine the Catholic Faith and the Papacy, but you can't say that because someone doesn't start calling him "Wojtyla" that person is an apostate.

A person CAN be non-sedevacantist and still be of good faith. Deal with it.

Please read the rules for this forum -- this is an SSPX forum. We tolerate other views, especially as regards the Crisis in the Church, but we expect you to be as charitable as we are to those who disagree with you.

"In doubtful things, liberty" Sorry to say, the whole Crisis in the Church is so unprecedented, you'd be a fool to say it doesn't go under "doubtful things".

As sure of themselves as the sedevacantists talk, there was never a handbook given to us by God or the Church on what to do during a situation like this -- except perhaps "stick with what you know" -- which is exactly what the SSPX is doing.

Matthew