Author Topic: 1958 and Today (Read 1245 times)

John Grace · « **on:** March 19, 2013, 03:20:33 PM »

I was reading an article yesterday and it mentioned how in 1958, 400 priests were ordained in Ireland. Last year it said 8 priests were ordained. I believe the figures were for Diocesan clergy only. In reality the 8 were not validly ordained at all.

Our country has only a handful of priests offering the Traditional Mass and a much smaller number offering it exclusively.

Mabel · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2013, 09:42:42 PM »

It's probably somewhat the same here, my home diocese "ordains" about 4-6 in a big year and in 2011, they had nine married "deacons." I don't know if they staggered them so they could do them all at once, but the pictures just make me sick. Not just the fake permanent married deacon stuff but they hugging in church at the end of the ceremony.

It's a sad state. I'm just glad to know there are others out there holding on to the Faith.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:50:16 PM »

This is the Ordination Class of 1949 at St. Mary's Seminary at Mundelein,
Chicago, Illinois
This was typical of the Ordinations at many other Seminaries in the U.S. and
throughout the Catholic World up to 1965, when the numbers started to
decrease.

Marlelar · « **Reply #3 on:** March 24, 2013, 09:13:51 PM »

Quote from: John Grace

I was reading an article yesterday and it mentioned how in 1958, 400 priests were ordained in Ireland. Last year it said 8 priests were ordained. I believe the figures were for Diocesan clergy only. In reality the 8 were not validly ordained at all.

Our country has only a handful of priests offering the Traditional Mass and a much smaller number offering it exclusively.

How sad, as Ireland sent many a priest here to the US. I looked on the SSPX Ireland site and it listed only 7 mass centers, are there other, independent mass sites?

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2013, 09:36:09 PM »

Beautiful picture, RomanCatholic1953.

If only things were still like that in the Church today.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2013, 12:20:17 AM »

Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti

Beautiful picture, RomanCatholic1953.

If only things were still like that in the Church today.

I only wish that things could that way today.

You can only thank the results of Vatican 2 and its aftermath, that
seems that will not end no time soon.

I wonder if someone can give a visual count in how many were ordained
in that photo.

Probably it would not come to the total count ordained in the U.S. this
year of 2013.

This was just one seminary out of many that existed at that time.

John Grace · « **Reply #6 on:** March 26, 2013, 04:57:17 PM »

Quote from: Marlelar

Quote from: John Grace
I was reading an article yesterday and it mentioned how in 1958, 400 priests were ordained in Ireland. Last year it said 8 priests were ordained. I believe the figures were for Diocesan clergy only. In reality the 8 were not validly ordained at all.

Our country has only a handful of priests offering the Traditional Mass and a much smaller number offering it exclusively.

How sad, as Ireland sent many a priest here to the US. I looked on the SSPX Ireland site and it listed only 7 mass centers, are there other, independent mass sites?

There are very limited independent Mass sites.A few here or there but not like the United States. An example was Mass in the home of the late Mrs Deirdre Manifold. Whilst SSPX did offer Mass there, it was Independent/Private.
Ireland has been a country that has suited both SSPX and the Indult.

Cato · « **Reply #7 on:** March 26, 2013, 06:18:49 PM »

Quote from: Marlelar

Quote from: John Grace
I was reading an article yesterday and it mentioned how in 1958, 400 priests were ordained in Ireland. Last year it said 8 priests were ordained. I believe the figures were for Diocesan clergy only. In reality the 8 were not validly ordained at all.

Our country has only a handful of priests offering the Traditional Mass and a much smaller number offering it exclusively.

How sad, as Ireland sent many a priest here to the US. I looked on the SSPX Ireland site and it listed only 7 mass centers, are there other, independent mass sites?

Not only has Ireland sent many a priest, Irish American priests seem ubiquitous today in the USA.

Traditionalist numbers are growing; while Novus Ordo are shrinking.