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008 = Stephen Hand
« on: February 17, 2010, 03:48:12 PM »
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  • Just thought a few people would like to know that.
    He used to be here as JustCatholic, and was almost banned.

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    « Reply #1 on: February 17, 2010, 03:49:30 PM »
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  • It's too bad he left, I appreciated his vigor even though we disagreed.  It makes for interesting and challenging discussion.  


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    « Reply #2 on: February 17, 2010, 03:51:01 PM »
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  • Yes, he had a certain maturity to him --

    But I agree with your other statement that he was a bit heavy on emotion.

    The fact that he blasted CathInfo once, was banned, got re-instated, he signed up again, then left in an angry huff tells a lot about his personal balance of reason/emotion.

    Emotion can motivate you to action; to do many good works, to become a saint even! But emotion gets in the way more times than not.

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    « Reply #3 on: February 17, 2010, 04:43:19 PM »
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  • I think he was just playing a game. He's not a traditionalist, but he likes to argue with us. He is in control at first, then there are these outbursts where he shows his true identity.



    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil

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    « Reply #4 on: February 17, 2010, 08:23:54 PM »
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  • So how did you figure it out, Matthew?

    I am disappointed to hear this, because many of 008's comments came across as rather harsh and uncharitable.  Hand has always tried to portray himself as a champion of charity and open-mindedness, etc. (e.g. on his web radio show).


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    « Reply #5 on: February 17, 2010, 09:44:29 PM »
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  • He has the same IP as JustCatholic, and he admitted it to me as well.

    Once in a while I'll allow someone to return, especially if they haven't been banned, and they agree to cease using their old account.

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    « Reply #6 on: February 18, 2010, 08:49:26 AM »
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  • He was a nasty character.

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    « Reply #7 on: February 18, 2010, 08:56:30 AM »
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  • I don't know anything about him. Is he some sort of self-proclaimed novus ordo celebrity? The type that bilks idiots out their money on cruises like the "catholic answers" crowd?


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    « Reply #8 on: February 18, 2010, 09:40:17 AM »
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  • largely
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

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    « Reply #9 on: February 18, 2010, 09:40:51 AM »
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  • Quote from: SJB
    I think he was just playing a game. He's not a traditionalist, but he likes to argue with us. He is in control at first, then there are these outbursts where he shows his true identity.





    perhaps he has temporary Tourette's?  :roll-laugh2:
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    « Reply #10 on: February 18, 2010, 10:38:54 AM »
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  • Saying Fatima is bogus and quoting Hutten Gibson, and the irregular writing style made me wonder what was up with him.

    So is he some promoter of Hutten Gibson in his "public" life?


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    « Reply #11 on: February 18, 2010, 10:52:43 AM »
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    Saying Fatima is bogus and quoting Hutton Gibson, and the irregular writing style made me wonder what was up with him.

    So is he some promoter of Hutton Gibson in his "public" life?


    Mr. Hand is a former traditionalist who is now an anti-traditionalist. He opposes all those who oppose the "Novus Ordo establishment" (for lack of a better term).

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    « Reply #12 on: February 18, 2010, 12:15:29 PM »
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  • I always presumed that 008 was a woman for some reason.

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    « Reply #13 on: February 18, 2010, 12:57:00 PM »
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    Saying Fatima is bogus and quoting Hutton Gibson, and the irregular writing style made me wonder what was up with him.

    So is he some promoter of Hutton Gibson in his "public" life?


    Mr. Hand is a former traditionalist who is now an anti-traditionalist. He opposes all those who oppose the "Novus Ordo establishment" (for lack of a better term).



    should he then not trumpet the official party line about Fatima-ie, that the 3rd secret is about JP2 and the consecration was done?
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    « Reply #14 on: February 18, 2010, 02:07:49 PM »
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    Mr. Hand is a former traditionalist who is now an anti-traditionalist.


    But he redeemed himself, by returning to tradition a couple of years ago.