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Offline Gray2023

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Re: "Why is that?"
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2024, 02:15:27 PM »
"Where people are" is placing feelings over thought.  We have had a couple of generations of feminism indoctrinating women that principled decision making is a form of patriarchal oppression.  They (and men too) have lost the underlying philosophical assumptions necessary for understanding that there is such a thing as right and wrong and that we ought to choose what is right.  There is no foundation for people to do hard things because it is the right thing to do. 
I get what you are saying.  But for the record when I said "where people are", I meant the whole person, who is poorly educated (physically, psychologically, and spiritually).

It is probably safer and easier now for single women to have babies than at any other point in Western history.  They will get money from the government and not face social disgrace.  But it is still hard because having children, even under ideal conditions, is always hard. I was happily married and financially secure and, nevertheless, raising my children is the hardest thing I've ever done.  The psychological and spiritual issue is that people do not know how to tell right from wrong and how to do hard things. 
It might be safer physically but I still think that most people do know when they are going against God, so if they are doing it in an improper order for selfish reasons they still have guilt which causes them to have physical, psychological and spiritual issues.


One of the main things that people need is the Catholic intellectual tradition: logic, philosophy, and theology.  What we can do is train ourselves to think and to pass this skill on to our children.  Emotions should be guided by intellect which should be formed by Church teaching.  Every person who learns how to think is a point of light in the darkness of our times.  We do not need more worrying about how people feel.  The unbalanced emphasis on feelings is one of the fundamental underlying problems of our culture.  Yet more emphasis on feelings is not the solution.
I agree with you here.  So how do we help our neighbor with this?

I am glad I have sons because they just don't care how Truth makes someone feel.  The things my son is teaching others, by his class assignments amazes me.  I just want to do more, but I am hindered by own melancholy and timidness.

Re: "Why is that?"
« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2024, 02:22:57 PM »
For my part, because I never considered Vance a Catholic to begin with.
You know...you are absolutely right.  Just as I believe an excommunication of Peℓσѕι and Biden would be meaningless. I probably should have never considered Vance's "Catholicism" in the first place.


Offline Gray2023

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Re: "Why is that?"
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2024, 02:24:38 PM »
We don't know how many abortions there would have been if Roe vs Wade were still in place.  Perhaps it would have been far more than actually occurred. 

(It is actually a logical fallacy to assume that something that happened before another thing caused it.  There is even a fancy Latin name for it post hoc propter hoc which you can throw around if you want to impress people  That's what Latin is for, right?)
True.

I think it is probably really hard to calculate.  As the use of working protection goes up, the amount of abortions go down.  It really is just a sad state of affairs.

Re: "Why is that?"
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2024, 02:28:53 PM »
Here's some positive news :
Musk in his capacity as Czar of Government waste ( or something like that) wants to end taxpayer funding of Planned Parenthood.
That would be excellent!
Yes.  Positive indeed.  Lack of funding would reduce their ability to perform abortions.  And then that decreases the number of abortions even if a state allows for it.  

Re: "Why is that?"
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2024, 02:30:25 PM »
You're referencing JD Vance a Hindu, 
A bought man who embraced a demonic religion concocted by Kabbalah rabbis.


Christian Gentile babies are his enemy.