Author Topic: "Who am I to judge gαy people?" (Read 4613 times)

poche · « **Reply #15 on:** July 29, 2013, 01:16:28 PM »

the media shouldn't be looking at anyone's NON-CRIMINAL sɛҳuąƖ BEHAVIOR

Too much attention to this falls under the sin of detraction. The same God who said "Do not fornicate," also said, "Do not pass judgement."

"The judgement you pass on others will be the judgement that is passed on to you" - Jesus

Napoli · « **Reply #16 on:** July 29, 2013, 01:23:40 PM »

Poche,

You gave gone of the deep end. I hope you can swim.

:heretic:

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #17 on:** July 29, 2013, 01:44:55 PM »

Not sure when I can get a signature here, but if I could have one, it would be this:

To adhere to a false Bishop of Rome is to be out of communion with the Church. —St. Cyprian

poche: a Pope doesn't ask "who am I to judge". Did St. Peter just pat Ananias and Sapphira on the back and say, "Hey, I forgive you, your lying is in the past, who cares? Who am I to judge? Just, go and sin no more!"

Absolutely not! They got FRIED ON THE SPOT. Torched! Same bat time, same bat channel (That is, Frank::St. Peter as Ricca::Ananias/Sapphira; when Ananias/Sapphira's past came to light, the H.S. torched these pagans through Peter on the spot. You might question the historicity of Acts, but we KNOW St. Peter wouldn't have patted Ricca on the back and said, "Eh, it's history; fuggedaboutit!"

And there have been loads of righteous Popes who knew real humility (saying the unpopular but truthful thing to save the few who might hear them); who didn't need to win a popularity contest and at the cost of their earthly lives stood by the Truth and the Holy Catholic Faith.

Is it okay to be gαy? To act on it? To overturn your Holy Orders and practice AN ABOMINATION to the scandal of a whole country? No, that's NOT okay, and if a pope says it's okay, he is not part of the Church and is definitely no head of it.

Frank showed his hand.

TheKnightVigilant · « **Reply #18 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:09:12 PM »

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That horrible crime, on account of which corrupt and obscene cities were destroyed by fire through divine condemnation, causes us most bitter sorrow and shocks our mind, impelling us to repress such a crime with the greatest possible zeal.

Quite opportunely the Fifth Lateran Council [1512-1517] issued this decree: "Let any member of the clergy caught in that vice against nature, given that the wrath of God falls over the sons of perfidy, be removed from the clerical order or forced to do penance in a monastery" (chap. 4, X, V, 31).

So that the contagion of such a grave offense may not advance with greater audacity by taking advantage of impunity, which is the greatest incitement to sin, and so as to more severely punish the clerics who are guilty of this nefarious crime and who are not frightened by the death of their souls, we determine that they should be handed over to the severity of the secular authority, which enforces civil law.

Therefore, wishing to pursue with greater rigor than we have exerted since the beginning of our pontificate, we establish that any priest or member of the clergy, either secular or regular, who commits such an execrable crime, by force of the present law be deprived of every clerical privilege, of every post, dignity and ecclesiastical benefit, and having been degraded by an ecclesiastical judge, let him be immediately delivered to the secular authority to be put to death, as mandated by law as the fitting punishment for laymen who have sunk into this abyss.

-Pope St. Pius V

http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/n009rp_ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖPriests.htm

Matto · « **Reply #19 on:** July 29, 2013, 02:19:32 PM »

Quote from: StCeciliasGirl

Pope Francis, making this guy's case:

I would rather follow "Pope" Michael than Pope Francis. At least "Pope" Michael is Catholic.