Lately it would appear as though I've been running into a fair share of people who seem to think that no one can judge anything because "it's not our job" or something along the lines of that. All I'll say to these people (and you know who are) is this:

Let's just assume your position is a good one to take for a moment..

If a man claims that Jesus Christ is NOT God and He dies obstinately denying this Truth while being baptised, I guess "we can't judge" and assume his soul was lost. Even if 2 seconds before this man dies he still denied the existence of Jesus Christ, we can't presume he was lost because we "can't judge" even though there's no proof he repented.

Oh, but "what's wrong with this position?" you might ask. Well, think of it like this. If Christ teaches that it is necessary for belief in Him to go to Heaven and someone denies this and remains obstinate in it until death and there's no proof of repentance before death, then it is simply a manifestation of faithlessness in the teachings of Christ for you to believe that it is even likely this man was saved. You can't say "we can't judge" and then claim to be Catholic, as if you even believe in anything Christ taught. You don't really believe that all who die outside of Christ are lost. What you believe in is universal salvation, as you can't even say for sure what Christ teaches quite plainly.

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “The Athanasian Creed,” Sess. 8, Nov. 22, 1439, ex cathedra:
“Whoever wishes to be saved, needs above all to hold the Catholic faith; unless each one preserves this whole and inviolate, he will without a doubt perish in eternity.”

Here is St. Francis Xavier contradicting the modernist Gospel of "wecan'tjudgism":

St. Francis Xavier, The Life and Letters of St. Francis Xavier by Henry James Coleridge, S.J. (Published in 1872), Nov. 5, 1549:
“The corsair who commanded our vessel died here at Cagoxima.  He did his work for us, on the whole, as we wished… He himself chose to die in his own superstitions; he did not even leave us the power of rewarding him by that kindness which we can after death do to other friends who die in the profession of the Christian faith, in commending their souls to God, since the poor fellow by his own hand cast his soul into hell, where there is no redemption[/b].”

"What's this? St. Francis Xavier just presumed someone to be in Hell!" you might say. That's exactly right. He did just do that because he understands that "we can't judge" is not at all what the Catholic Church teaches. You might even object that St. Francis is a saint while we are not, even though this argument falls on its face when considering St. Francis was not yet a saint when he made that remark and did not even know he would become one. You might even object and say that "St. Francis was wrong in judging" but this too is not a Catholic argument, as if you KNOW someone obstinately denied the Faith while living and they died obstinately denying it there's no way they were saved. Saying otherwise is just a denial of the Faith.

So you see, the very notion of "we can't judge" is pure rubbish and is actually contrary to what the Bible teaches. Psalms 36:30, 118:13 and 1 Corinthians 2:15 are just a few examples of why this is contrary to what the Bible teaches.

Now, even after all this, you may think that because I've said all this that means that I'm encouraging people to go around condemning everyone as a heretic. This is not true. All I'm saying is that saying "we can't judge" isn't true. If you see someone (baptised..) who is obstinately denying the Faith while claiming to be a Christian/Catholic it is your DUTY to judge what is already true: that they are heretics. Saying that you can't judge is just a way to run from all dispute, all the while subtly implying that you don't really believe that all who die outside the Church are lost.

So before you tell me "we can't judge", you must consider these things first.

The lie that "you can't judge" is loudly proclaimed by those who say that you cannot determine by the facts whether or not Benedict XVI is pope.

But the Church has told us in "cuм Ex Apostolatus Officio" that we can.

These same people then judge Benedict XVI themselves by saying that much of what he does is wrong.
They judge every action of a man they claim is their lawful superior and is pope.
Who are they to judge the actions of a man they erroneously claim is Pope?

I can see all the pseudo-Catholics rolling their eyes and thumbing their noses now... clicking thumb downs and ignores like there is no tomorrow.

 :cussing: :cussing:

And not ONE SECOND after I posted that last post did someone go thru the entire thread and thumb down all of us.

Thanks for proving my point.