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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: "Vitium Consensus" - Archbishop Vigano - Catholic Identity Conference 2023
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2023, 05:33:54 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on October 01, 2023, 05:13:21 PM
MM's cowardice is most likely financially motivated as well, as he too fits into the grifter category.  He'd alienate a large percentage of his readership if he were to adopt certain unpopular positions.  He can sponsor +Vigano but keep him at an arm's length with the old "the opinions expressed by Archbishop Vigano are not necessarily those of the Remnant".


Very good assessment!
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: "Vitium Consensus" - Archbishop Vigano - Catholic Identity Conference 2023
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2023, 05:34:42 PM »
Well, here it is, and it leaves no ambiguity:

“Some may object: But even if Bergoglio acted with malice, he still accepted what the Cardinals offered him: his election as Bishop of Rome and therefore as Roman Pontiff. And so he assumed office and must be considered to be the Pope. I believe instead that his acceptance of the papacy is invalidated,”

But then the rationale, based upon an analogy to sacramental theology (which I’m not sure about):

“like a spouse who gets married in church but excludes the specific purposes of marriage from his intention, thus making the marriage null and void precisely due to his lack of consent.”
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: "Vitium Consensus" - Archbishop Vigano - Catholic Identity Conference 2023
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2023, 05:43:23 PM »
“So here I am, throwing the proverbial stone into the pond.”

Leaves no doubt he believes Bergoglio’s pontificate is invalid, as he’s recognizing himself as the first uncensored prelate to make the claim.  

Wow.
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: "Vitium Consensus" - Archbishop Vigano - Catholic Identity Conference 2023
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2023, 05:45:36 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on October 01, 2023, 05:34:42 PM
Well, here it is, and it leaves no ambiguity:

“Some may object: But even if Bergoglio acted with malice, he still accepted what the Cardinals offered him: his election as Bishop of Rome and therefore as Roman Pontiff. And so he assumed office and must be considered to be the Pope. I believe instead that his acceptance of the papacy is invalidated,”

But then the rationale, based upon an analogy to sacramental theology (which I’m not sure about):

“like a spouse who gets married in church but excludes the specific purposes of marriage from his intention, thus making the marriage null and void precisely due to his lack of consent.”
Does he ever quote Church teaching?  Or is this just his personal belief?
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: "Vitium Consensus" - Archbishop Vigano - Catholic Identity Conference 2023
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2023, 05:49:04 PM »
Very “interesting” that he concludes with this:

“where sin abounds, grace abounds all the more”

That’s from Romans 5:20 (which was my CI signature for years).
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