Author Topic: "There is no Catholic God" (Read 4202 times)

Aleah · « **on:** October 01, 2013, 03:45:15 PM »

That is what I was just thinking.... Since Pope Francis, I have really put more thought into the question of validity of the last few popes. Very scary times!

Cantarella · « **Reply #1 on:** October 01, 2013, 03:47:45 PM »

Kyrie Eleison

Charlemagne · « **Reply #2 on:** October 01, 2013, 05:32:23 PM »

Just as traditionalists were vindicated after insisting all those years that the True Mass had never been abrogated, someday sedes will be proven correct. And it's not about who's right, so don't misunderstand me. It's just frustrating to be called schismatic, a non-Catholic, etc. We love the Church as much as anyone else. We just have a different reading of the Crisis.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 01, 2013, 05:37:13 PM »

It does pay to be more Catholic than the Pope. Believing this guy,
you will lose the faith very fast.
One great Saint predicted because of the sins of the church, God
will send not a pastor, but a destroyer.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #4 on:** October 01, 2013, 05:48:08 PM »

That quote from Pope Francis is serious business and extremely grave. Do we have proof that he said those exact words?

Please do not mistake my post as a defense of F - One. I just want to have all my ducks in a row.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #5 on:** October 01, 2013, 05:54:50 PM »

McQuigg, this quote is from the same interview that we had a thread on earlier. He literally said "I believe in God, not a Catholic God, there is no Catholic God."

Regarding the OP, I think he got a thumbs down for what he said about the Resistance. But I agree. Our priest's need to make it abundantly clear that we are not in communion with this blasphemer and heretic.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #6 on:** October 01, 2013, 05:57:10 PM »

MyrnaM · « **Reply #7 on:** October 01, 2013, 05:57:20 PM »

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“The most surprising thing he told me was: ‘God is not Catholic.’ I asked him what he meant, since he is the leader of the Catholic Church, and he told me that ‘God is universal, and we are catholic in the sense of the way we worship him.”The opportunity to interview the new leader of the Catholic Church was enough to awe even a seasoned reporter.
“In 60 years of career as a journalist, I interviewed many important people, and I became friends with some of them. But I never thought I could feel I would become a friend of a pope.”
NBC News Claudio Lavanga, the Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
Reported:

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/01/20769734-pope-francis-digs-at-vaticans-narcissistic-nature-calls-for-change?lite

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #8 on:** October 01, 2013, 06:00:50 PM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

A million thumbs up! For those who don't know, tonight is the Vigil of the Feast of Our Holy Guardian Angels. Don't forget Vespers! http://divinumofficium.com/cgi-bin/horas/officium.pl

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #9 on:** October 01, 2013, 06:03:45 PM »

http://www.repubblica.it/cultura/2013/10/01/news/pope_s_conversation_with_scalfari_english-67643118/

Atheist to Pope: I am grateful for this question. The answer is this: I believe in Being, that is in the tissue from which forms, bodies arise.

Pope Francis' response: And I believe in God, not in a Catholic God, there is no Catholic God, there is God and I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation. Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator. This is my Being. Do you think we are very far apart?"

MyrnaM · « **Reply #10 on:** October 01, 2013, 06:05:31 PM »

I always thought that phrase in the Our Father where the words go like this;
"Thy Kingdom come Thy Will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven," means, the kingdom was the Church on earth, and in Heaven.

Was I wrong to believe that?

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #11 on:** October 01, 2013, 06:23:07 PM »

Akin's trying hard to re-word it. Pretty funny.

You'll never guess: MORE translation problems.

And of course, the evil media has "an agenda" by reporting what Frank says. AND Frank was taken out of context. Also, people are silly for not knowing that proselytization (the "bad" thing) is not the same thing as evangelization. Not that Frank evangelizes; just that they're different things.

Best of all is #8 in Akin's list of "how you misread Frank again": they were JOKING!

These two old goons are the best of buddies and the most of the interview was just jokes!

2Vermont · « **Reply #12 on:** October 01, 2013, 06:28:24 PM »

Quote from: StCeciliasGirl

Akin's trying hard to re-word it. Pretty funny.

You'll never guess: MORE translation problems.

And of course, the evil media has "an agenda" by reporting what Frank says. AND Frank was taken out of context. Also, people are silly for not knowing that proselytization (the "bad" thing) is not the same thing as evangelization. Not that Frank evangelizes; just that they're different things.

Best of all is #8 in Akin's list of "how you misread Frank again": they were JOKING! These two old goons are the best of buddies and the most of the interview was just jokes!

I saw that on the CAF thread. Don't these guys ever get tired of the constant defense and excuse-making? I've got to think that's harder than accepting the obvious.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #13 on:** October 01, 2013, 06:30:45 PM »

Quote from: StCeciliasGirl

Akin's trying hard to re-word it. Pretty funny.

You'll never guess: MORE translation problems.

And of course, the evil media has "an agenda" by reporting what Frank says. AND Frank was taken out of context. Also, people are silly for not knowing that proselytization (the "bad" thing) is not the same thing as evangelization. Not that Frank evangelizes; just that they're different things.

Best of all is #8 in Akin's list of "how you misread Frank again": they were JOKING! These two old goons are the best of buddies and the most of the interview was just jokes!

I perused a few of the more popular tad forums to see what was being said. Many are very scandalized and at a loss for words, and those that aren't are picking the easiest 're-interpertable' parts. You'll notice that Akin didn't even try to touch the part where Francis said there is "No Catholic God." That must have been misinterpreted from "There is only One God and He founded the Catholic Church. He is a Catholic God."

I'm sure that's what he really said, and they just translated it to be the complete opposite. Damn media.

Meg · « **Reply #14 on:** October 01, 2013, 08:04:33 PM »

I like the article on the Sensible Bond, called, "The Loggorhea flows into the Tiber."

He summs up the article thus:

"...And lastly, don't expect to see an open reaction from the hierarches who think Francis is out of control. Nobody will break ranks openly - but neither should we underestimate what could be happening behind the scenes. I'm not joking: this interview is utterly frightful in its implications, and nobody with a mitre can afford to ignore the most frightful of its implications."

The writer seems to be hopeful that someone behind the scenes will try to rein in this train-wreck of a papacy. I'm not sure I can agree with that. But maybe it's possible. Link to article here:

http://thesensiblebond.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-loggorhea-flows-into-tiber.html