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"Surviving the Sedes, Tip 1"
« on: March 22, 2013, 07:12:06 PM »
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    From the looks of it, we'll have to kiss goodbye our hopes for Restoration and Good Riddance:  Jorge "Pope Pancho" Bergoglio turns out to be just another tradition-hating, sob-sister, Jesuit social worker hell-bent on propping up the creaking conciliar dispensation. There's still something wrong, aliquid pravi. (If you have any doubts, just wait for the ouster of conservative-leaning papal M.C. Guido Marini.) Maybe the shrewd, hard-ball playing bureaucrats of the Roman Curia will stymie the plot to break them, and P2 [read "P squared"] will take a powder like his predecessor.  

    Until the day when we have another opportunity for Restoration and Good Riddance, many traditional Catholics will have to struggle to keep their faith and consciences intact under the malignant cure of disordered, malformed, irregular, and money-mad sede clergy.  So, for those folks who (mistakenly) think they've got to endure the sede circus, we're starting a new series -- a kind of survival guide for the Traddie perplexed, so they don't lose their savings and souls while visiting the cult's chapels.  Each week, we'll post one easy-to-remember-and-practice survival tip to keep you from falling prey to wily priest craft.

    TODAY'S SURVIVAL TIP

    POISONOUS PADRES

    As a traditional Roman Catholic, you know wandering bishops and uncardinated priests have no jurisdiction. Without this knowledge, you would probably feel defenseless against their toxic appeals for obedience and alms. You might even believe they are the Church. But when you remember that they have no authority at all, you will feel safe and secure while you assist at their chapels. You may freely ignore their public utterances. You may rest guilt-free as you refuse to sip from the cup of venom they offer. Below is a pew-expedient tool you can use to avoid their lethal bite.

    Flesh-colored, foam earplugs and small book of Catholic prayers will preserve your faith and conscience during a cult master's sermon. First, discreetly insert the ear plugs snugly into both ears as the cult master slithers to the pulpit. Verify that all ambient noises are dampened. Next, with your Sunday Missal open on your lap, place the small prayer book on top. If necessary, cup your palms around the sides to obscure the view in case any cult-followers are spying on you. You can identify these creatures by their glassy-eyed stares and the thick drool trickling from the sides of their open mouths. (Don't step in the puddle when you leave.) Look placidly up to the pulpit until the sermon begins. Then, slowly look down and begin reading silently from your prayer book. Occasionally look up to the pulpit, and then resume reading. Continue until you observe that the sermon has ended. At that point, you may circuмspectly remove the earplugs, making sure you don't draw attention to yourself; softly close and cautiously put away the prayer book. You have now preserved your faith, conscience, and pocketbook during the most dangerous time of your visit to cultilandia.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    "Surviving the Sedes, Tip 1"
    « Reply #1 on: March 22, 2013, 07:18:10 PM »
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  • Why would one attend Mass if one isn't even going to listen to the sermon? Why not just stay home if these priests can't be trusted?
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    « Reply #2 on: March 22, 2013, 07:22:32 PM »
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  • Good question.  The textbook answer is: access to the Sacraments outweighs any danger the priest's issues might present.  It is the supernatural graces that all Traddies seek, yet many must subject themselves to "pastoral" nonsense on order to maintain such access.  This can and has been seen in many chapels -- SV, SSPX, etc.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #3 on: March 22, 2013, 07:23:38 PM »
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    Why not just stay home if these priests can't be trusted?


    The priest is but a man; what a valid priest offers via the Sacraments is grace from God, despite the defects of the man.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #4 on: March 22, 2013, 07:25:44 PM »
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  • I guess it makes some sense. It may be better to get the sacraments from a bad priest if one has no other option. That is kind of the like Dimond brothers' advice too, how they say to go to Eastern Rite priests for confession and communion but not to listen to their sermons because they are probably heretics.
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    « Reply #5 on: March 22, 2013, 07:29:54 PM »
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  • Well, Matto, these are wild times.  Each of us must inform his conscience as best as he can and do what seems right.  God bless and keep you, and any who may be in your care.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #6 on: March 22, 2013, 07:34:31 PM »
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    POISONOUS PADRES


    The ironic thing is that the "poisonous padres" are those who are part of the Conciliar structures while the people he describes, i.e., "wandering bishops and uncardinated priests" apply equally to the SSPX as it does all the other non-idult traditional priests.

    The real question we should be asking is:  How do we survive gladius_veritatis?

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    « Reply #7 on: March 22, 2013, 07:37:47 PM »
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    The real question we should be asking is:  How do we survive gladius_veritatis?


    That is easy, with regard to the man...don't willfully read what I write or willfully reply.  As for the actual Sword of Truth, well...He cannot be bribed or evaded.

    If you have something useful or rational to contribute to the discussion, I am sure that many will be grateful.  Cheers :)
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    « Reply #8 on: March 22, 2013, 07:40:13 PM »
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    The ironic thing is that the "poisonous padres" are those who are part of the Conciliar structures while the people he describes, i.e., "wandering bishops and uncardinated priests" apply equally to the SSPX as it does all the other non-idult traditional priests.


    There is nothing ironic.  Do you disagree that some or even many Traddie priests are woefully ignorant, spiritually toxic, out for numero uno?  Perhaps you still live in La-La Land and think all is well within Traddieland?  In light of Bp Fellay's betrayal, it seems more-or-less insane to act as if all is well within the Generalized Resistance, no?

    Perhaps I have misunderstood your main point.  If so, please clarify.  Thank you.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #9 on: March 22, 2013, 07:43:36 PM »
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  • FWIW, if a man cannot "survive" little ole me, he is not a man and stands nary a chance against his greater, more numerous foes.  I have not even been around these parts for many, many months.  I hear the Dollar Store is having a clearance sale on spines :)

    Again, I readily admit I may have misunderstood your main point.  If so, please have pity upon my native stupidity and clarify your meaning.  Thank you.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #10 on: March 22, 2013, 08:28:20 PM »
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    Quote from: TKGS
    The ironic thing is that the "poisonous padres" are those who are part of the Conciliar structures while the people he describes, i.e., "wandering bishops and uncardinated priests" apply equally to the SSPX as it does all the other non-idult traditional priests.


    There is nothing ironic.  Do you disagree that some or even many Traddie priests are woefully ignorant, spiritually toxic, out for numero uno?  Perhaps you still live in La-La Land and think all is well within Traddieland?  In light of Bp Fellay's betrayal, it seems more-or-less insane to act as if all is well within the Generalized Resistance, no?

    Perhaps I have misunderstood your main point.  If so, please clarify.  Thank you.


    Has Gladius ever suggested that SSPX priests are not in the same boat jurisdictionally?  Clearly they are.  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #11 on: March 22, 2013, 08:48:41 PM »
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    The ironic thing is that the "poisonous padres" are those who are part of the Conciliar structures while the people he describes, i.e., "wandering bishops and uncardinated priests" apply equally to the SSPX as it does all the other non-idult traditional priests.


    There is nothing ironic.  Do you disagree that some or even many Traddie priests are woefully ignorant, spiritually toxic, out for numero uno?  Perhaps you still live in La-La Land and think all is well within Traddieland?  In light of Bp Fellay's betrayal, it seems more-or-less insane to act as if all is well within the Generalized Resistance, no?

    Perhaps I have misunderstood your main point.  If so, please clarify.  Thank you.


    Has Gladius ever suggested that SSPX priests are not in the same boat jurisdictionally?  Clearly they are.  


    Sigi,

    Thank you for saying in few words what I failed to say in many more.  It is odd that many seem to suppose that the mere posting of a link or an article equates to complete agreement with its content.  Is this ever the case?  If it is, does not the poster/linker make it clear?  I only shared the link and article so someone might profit from it to whatever degree he deems possible and proper.

    Cheers :)
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    « Reply #12 on: March 22, 2013, 09:10:51 PM »
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    FWIW, if a man cannot "survive" little ole me, he is not a man and stands nary a chance against his greater, more numerous foes.  I have not even been around these parts for many, many months.  I hear the Dollar Store is having a clearance sale on spines :)

    Again, I readily admit I may have misunderstood your main point.  If so, please have pity upon my native stupidity and clarify your meaning.  Thank you.


    What about an old lady, like me!    :roll-laugh1:
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    « Reply #13 on: March 22, 2013, 10:17:56 PM »
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    Quote from: gladius_veritatis
    FWIW, if a man cannot "survive" little ole me, he is not a man and stands nary a chance against his greater, more numerous foes.  I have not even been around these parts for many, many months.  I hear the Dollar Store is having a clearance sale on spines :)

    Again, I readily admit I may have misunderstood your main point.  If so, please have pity upon my native stupidity and clarify your meaning.  Thank you.


    What about an old lady, like me!    :roll-laugh1:


    Good luck, sweetheart :)
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    « Reply #14 on: March 22, 2013, 10:17:59 PM »
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  • I went to that website and browsed the entries.

    The Reader, his monicker, freely admits that something is wrong in Rome and he wistfully clings to the notion that soon the Second Vatican Council will be deemed out of line with Catholic Theology...  what's not to like in that?  

    The mockery on that site is pretty well dressed, albeit a little thick on the lipstick, is a little harsh and clearly personal because it is all directed to someone known as "one handed Dan" --- there is a touch of romance (language and not amorous) --- maybe The Reader will introduce us to a seed clergy named Black Dog...

    ...and sede clergy wearing eye-patches, missing teeth and sputtering, "argh!"

    Taking this view, someone could visit the site and have a rollicking good read!  

    I think that the website is a "put on" but it is kinda clever and funny.