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Offline poche

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« on: October 09, 2013, 04:26:36 AM »
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  • The Vatican has put a German diocese on notice that it disapproves of its challenge to church teaching on whether Catholics who remarry can receive Communion.


    The diocese of Freiburg issued an official set of guidelines this week explaining how such divorced and remarried Catholics could receive the sacrament.


    Church teaching holds that Catholics who don't have their first marriages annulled, or declared null by a church tribunal, before remarrying cannot participate fully in the church's sacraments because they are essentially committing adultery. The issue has vexed the church for decades and Pope Francis has said it is something that must be addressed.


    But the Vatican said Tuesday that Freiburg's local initiative "risks causing confusion." It said the issue will be discussed at a meeting of bishops next year.

    http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/


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    « Reply #1 on: October 12, 2013, 02:50:16 AM »
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  • If the Archdiocese of Frieburg, Germany, has adopted a new policy allowing divorced and remarried Catholics to receive Communion, it is an apparent violation of Church norms, points out canon lawyer Edward Peters.

    Freiburg’s Archbishop Robert Zollitsch resigned in September, and his successor has not yet been appointed. Peters cites Canon 428 #1: “When a see is vacant, nothing is to be altered.” A change regarding the rules for receiving Communion—and particularly a change that countermands the rules of the universal Church—would surely constitute an alteration in the affairs of the archdiocese.

    http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=19335


    Offline TKGS

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    « Reply #2 on: October 12, 2013, 06:50:51 AM »
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  • What happens during the next year will be most instructive.  I also find it instructive that, apparently, a major objection being raised is a procedural issue rather than one based on morality.

    A year from now:

    --Will the diocese be forced to disavow this docuмent and actively promote true Catholic teachings on the matter?

    --Will the diocese be allowed to simply quietly drop the issue without actually disavowing the immoral instructions?

    --Will the diocese continue to promote this docuмent and, perhaps, adopt even more immoral practices?

    or, perhaps, a year from now:

    --Will the German bishops' conference adopt or reject this immoral teaching?

    --Will other bishops' conferences follow the lead of this archdiocese and begin exploring the adoption of these same principles or actually adopt them?

    --Will the Vatican ever actually uphold Catholic morality in the matter?

    Hopefully, one of our German-speaking members will keep track of this and provide a follow up.  What usually happens in these circuмstances is that a year from now, the whole mess is forgotten while the "policy" continues and is quietly adopted more and more until the entire Conciliar sect is practicing the evil.

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    « Reply #3 on: October 12, 2013, 10:52:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: TKGS
    What happens during the next year will be most instructive.  I also find it instructive that, apparently, a major objection being raised is a procedural issue rather than one based on morality.

    A year from now:

    --Will the diocese be forced to disavow this docuмent and actively promote true Catholic teachings on the matter?

    --Will the diocese be allowed to simply quietly drop the issue without actually disavowing the immoral instructions?

    --Will the diocese continue to promote this docuмent and, perhaps, adopt even more immoral practices?

    or, perhaps, a year from now:

    --Will the German bishops' conference adopt or reject this immoral teaching?

    --Will other bishops' conferences follow the lead of this archdiocese and begin exploring the adoption of these same principles or actually adopt them?

    --Will the Vatican ever actually uphold Catholic morality in the matter?

    Hopefully, one of our German-speaking members will keep track of this and provide a follow up.  What usually happens in these circuмstances is that a year from now, the whole mess is forgotten while the "policy" continues and is quietly adopted more and more until the entire Conciliar sect is practicing the evil.

    Which docuмent are you referrring to? the one where they will allow people who are in irregular marriages to recieve holy communion (the immoral one) or the one coming from the Vatican rebuking them?