Author Topic: "Saint" John Paul The Great (Read 3931 times)

Ambrose · « **on:** March 30, 2014, 04:12:42 PM »

This from the Knights of Columbus monthly magazine, Columbia, April, 2014.

andysloan · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2014, 06:28:02 PM »

For an alternative view on Pope John Paul 11, one should read listen to Fr Malachi Martin's interview with Bernard Janzen.

The Shoes of the Fisherman - The Slavic Solution:

http://www.triumphcommunications.net/mmartin.html

God bless!

Ambrose · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2014, 10:59:24 PM »

Quote from: andysloan

For an alternative view on Pope John Paul 11, one should read listen to Fr Malachi Martin's interview with Bernard Janzen.

The Shoes of the Fisherman - The Slavic Solution:

http://www.triumphcommunications.net/mmartin.html

God bless!

There is only truthful side to this story: John Paul II was a heretic and a destroyer. He in his role as a usurper to the Papacy scandalized countless millions of souls and caused untold harm to those inside the Church and out.

crossbro · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2014, 01:26:11 AM »

This is one reason why I never joined the nuts of columbus.

Ambrose · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2014, 01:37:18 AM »

Quote from: crossbro

This is one reason why I never joined the nuts of columbus.

They are like all in the Conciliar church right now. They all think this is a good thing, and that he is a great saint pope.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2014, 08:19:52 AM »

I've heard from a lot of Traditional Catholics who think that God will prevent the canonization. But why? He didn't prevent what appeared to be an Ecuмenical Council from teaching error to the Church. He didn't prevent the New Mass. What have we done to deserve that God should intervene now?

bowler · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2014, 09:08:33 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

I've heard from a lot of Traditional Catholics who think that God will prevent the canonization. But why? He didn't prevent what appeared to be an Ecuмenical Council from teaching error to the Church. He didn't prevent the New Mass. What have we done to deserve that God should intervene now?

Deny clear dogmas.

andysloan · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:08:37 AM »

Pope John Paul 2 tried to have the Latin Mass installed on equal terms with the NO.

http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/15th-july-1989/16/a-near-miss-for-the-old-mass

But he was side-lined on this by some cardinals.

He would say he was waiting until "She comes".

Thus, perhaps he thought the ship was to damaged and that an attempt at major repair would schism it, making it even worse?

Perhaps he made mistakes through weakness?

Perhaps he was too conciliatory?

Perhaps he was working a strategy on an understanding higher than ours?

Perhaps he was compelled to say and do some of the things he did?

Perhaps his writings were altered?

Perhaps??????

Maybe Assisi was an evangelisation exercise?

Be careful with your judgement people and make sure you are certain.

Is this the face of an apostate?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pope+john+paul+11&client=firefox-a&hs=CCf&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=KIA5U6aQHrDa0QX6ioGwAw&ved=0CD0QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=639

crossbro · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:16:02 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

I've heard from a lot of Traditional Catholics who think that God will prevent the canonization. But why? He didn't prevent what appeared to be an Ecuмenical Council from teaching error to the Church. He didn't prevent the New Mass. What have we done to deserve that God should intervene now?

Who says God has not prevented any of this ?

Quote

For many are called but few are chosen

Ladislaus · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2014, 01:05:00 PM »

Quote from: andysloan

Is this the face of an apostate?

What does an apostate look like?

Benedict XVI took some creepy pictures for sure.

Ambrose · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2014, 02:02:51 PM »

If anyone needs docuмentation that John Paul II was a heretic, this book proves the case:

Peter, Lovest Thou Me?
Fr Daniel Le Roux

http://www.carmel-books.org/peter-lovest-thou-me-p-986.html

andysloan · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2014, 02:22:08 PM »

To Ladislaus

Proverbs 17:24

"Wisdom shineth in the face of the wise:"

As for Assisi, how does anyone here know John Paul 2's intention?

Matthew 28:19

"Going therefore, teach ye all nations;"

According to Fr Malachi Martin, he was seeding them Word the Word of God.

And Fr Le Roux knows everything about this Pope?

"The mystery of salvation is revealed to us and is continued and accomplished in the Church...and from this genuine and single source, like 'humble, useful, precious and chaste' water, it reaches the whole world. Dear young people and members of the faithful, like Brother Francis we have to be conscious and absorb this fundamental and revealed truth, consecrated by tradition: 'There is no salvation outside the Church.' From her alone there flows surely and fully the life-giving force destined in Christ and in His Spirit, to renew the whole of humanity, and therefore directing every human being to become a part of the Mystical Body of Christ."

(Pope John Paul II, Radio Message for Franciscan Vigil in St. Peter's and Assisi, October 3, 1981, L'Osservatore Romano, October 12, 1981.)

andysloan · « **Reply #12 on:** April 01, 2014, 07:20:58 PM »

Fr Malachi Martin defending Pope John Paul 2.

In fact one could make the case that he is a "dry martyr". Remember the terrible physical sufferings at the close of his life!

Ambrose · « **Reply #13 on:** April 01, 2014, 08:37:06 PM »

Quote from: andysloan

Fr Malachi Martin defending Pope John Paul 2.

In fact one could make the case that he is a "dry martyr". Remember the terrible physical sufferings at the close of his life!

Malachi Martin is not a reputable source. I do not trust him, and most others do not either.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2014, 11:03:59 PM »

It explains why the Knights of Columbus Hall near me is rented every
Sunday to a Baptist group, when every other church in the area is
Baptist.
They can have their Saint John Paul II. He is not my saint.