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Offline SJB

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« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2011, 06:19:18 PM »
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  • Quote from: Nonno
    Sorry, every time I see Catholics use the term, they always use it strictly for what it means in Catholicism. Why would Fr. Ramolla use it loosely, like NPR or FOX?


    Interesting, Nonno. The reference to NPR and FOX is most interesting.
    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil

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    « Reply #31 on: June 27, 2011, 08:32:09 PM »
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  • Interesting posts, Father Ceda...I mean, Nonno.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #32 on: June 27, 2011, 08:44:58 PM »
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  • I am certain that the man knows what his word means, and has used it in a proportion to his need. I am certain because no educated Catholic uses the word "miracle" unless he, at the very least, first thought the occurrence was improbable. If you, gladius, doubt what is ordinarily certain, you can contact the man about it yourself.

    What I see is that Fr. C thought deportation was probable and desired it to happen, while Fr. R thought it was likewise probable but feared it happening. When the outcome happened against the odds, the use of "miracle" was used to advertise the appearance of divine approval for Fr. R's apostolate, and divine disapproval for Fr. C's. But, no such divine implications can be given to such either way, yet some in the Fr. R faction are gearing it that way anyway. Even terrorists, however improbable, are allowed through by the same US bureaucracy, so it is certainly not some divine stamp. And, even though Fr. C believed it was probable (with professional advice) as did Fr. R believe it probable, some in the faction on Fr. R's side actually had the gall and disrespect to laugh at Fr. C for believing in the same sort of probability as Fr. R believed in. This is really sophomoric and inconsistent. Had Fr. R not made the untraditional mistake of mixing a secular term of "miracle" with a religious answer to prayer (perhaps due to English not being his native tongue), most likely this nonsense would not have to be exposed, as I have done here.

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    « Reply #33 on: June 27, 2011, 08:47:47 PM »
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  • Anyone see a similarity in the posts from Nonno and Bazz (Father C)?  :scratchchin:

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=search&id=1375
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    « Reply #34 on: June 27, 2011, 09:12:50 PM »
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  • Quote from: Nonno
    ... used to advertise the appearance of divine approval for Fr. R's apostolate, and divine disapproval for Fr. C's.


    What exactly is Fr. Cekada's apostolate?
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    « Reply #35 on: June 27, 2011, 09:38:25 PM »
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    If you, gladius, doubt what is ordinarily certain, you can contact the man about it yourself.


    It doesn't matter to me, slick.  This is your hangup, not mine.

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    What I see is that Fr. C thought deportation was probable and desired it to happen...


    Indeed.  He thought it so probable and desired it so ardently that he practically wet himself as he shamelessly shared his depraved, premature glee with fellow priests.  To be sure, the entire thing is not nearly as revolting as what he did to Abbot Leonard, but it is still stunningly tactless (even if he were correct).

    As an aside, one has to wonder why AC followed the matter so closely anyway, or felt the need to 'spread the word' to other priests.  For instance, AC's email mentions a hearing date that he expressly states was not mentioned in the SAG bulletin.  How did AC know about it?

    As for what you have "exposed", Nonno, it seems pretty clear that you are far more concerned about it and impressed with yourself than anyone else is ever likely to be.
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    « Reply #36 on: June 27, 2011, 09:44:48 PM »
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  • gladius, I get the distinct notion you disagree, yet everything you just said avoided any direct bearing on what I actually said. Not surprising.

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    « Reply #37 on: June 27, 2011, 09:53:51 PM »
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  • Am I not supposed to see that your comment does not have any direct bearing upon what I actually said?

    As for your powers of perception, they seem to be more or less operational, so let's take a spin down AC's Depravity Lane...it is a long, winding road...

    What do you think about AC's gob-smackingly tasteless remarks about Abbot Leonard?  I mean WHOA!  Talk about disgusting!
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    « Reply #38 on: June 27, 2011, 10:03:25 PM »
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    gladius, I get the distinct notion you disagree, yet everything you just said avoided any direct bearing on what I actually said. Not surprising.



    Maybe because what was just said was a picayune and without interest. No one really cares (actually apparently one person does) whether use or misuse of one word has any particular significance.

    Let's see:

    Nonno=grandpa. No, not likely.

    Perhaps from the Latin, nonnus= respected tutor (how about Yoda?), or monk. Hmmm, wasn't one of the Nine previously a monk?

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    « Reply #39 on: June 27, 2011, 10:06:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
    Anyone see a similarity in the posts from Nonno and Bazz (Father C)?  :scratchchin:

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=search&id=1375


    No.  I hope that doesn't make anyone mad, but I don't.  And I have been wrong every time I have tried to guess the identity of a poster, so I don't even bother anymore.

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    « Reply #40 on: June 27, 2011, 10:08:25 PM »
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    And, even though Fr. C believed it was probable (with professional advice) as did Fr. R believe it probable, some in the faction on Fr. R's side actually had the gall and disrespect to laugh at Fr. C for believing in the same sort of probability as Fr. R believed in.


    For my part, I laugh at AC because he is laughable.  Tis true, he is more revolting than funny, but...

    As far as I can tell, AC's thinking something probable is not what makes people deride him; it is because he looks like a colossal ass for publicly circulating an email about the situation among fellow priests before the matter had even been decided.  AC has lost all respect or right to respect; it has been entirely his own doing.

    Nonno, does this response have a bearing that is direct enough for you?  
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    « Reply #41 on: June 27, 2011, 10:16:09 PM »
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    Anyone see a similarity in the posts from Nonno and Bazz (Father C)?  :scratchchin:

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=search&id=1375


    No.  I hope that doesn't make anyone mad, but I don't.  And I have been wrong every time I have tried to guess the identity of a poster, so I don't even bother anymore.


    Correction: that's not true.  I just failed at it again last week about somebody.  So I DO bother, but I'm always wrong, so I shouldn't.

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    « Reply #42 on: June 27, 2011, 10:49:34 PM »
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  • I don't doubt for a second it's him. Not only are their posts similar, but Nonno didn't even address the question of whether or not he's Father C, he just gave me a thumbs-down for bringing it up. I also noticed he seems to be sticking up for Father C, or perhaps I should say sticking up for himself.
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    « Reply #43 on: June 27, 2011, 10:54:37 PM »
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  • Something else that gives him away is that he, like on his Bazz account, underlines certain words. That's what gave David Hobson away, his posting style. He posted the "important" words if his posts in bold (sometimes red) letters. Everyone has their own posting styles, some more recognizable than others. I am 100% certain Nonno is Father C. Everything adds up. sedetrad has caught onto it, I have, SJB seems to have, only a matter of time before Matthew and/or MaterDominici do as well.
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    « Reply #44 on: June 28, 2011, 07:20:30 AM »
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  • Amazing stuff going on now. Just like Liberals, when they disagree with something solid, rather than attempt rebuttal or just plain admit they can't make the attempt, instead, resort to such things as personal attack. Somehow the identity of the author becomes an issue rather than admit what he says has a solid foundation. Is this allowable by the rules of this forum?

    So, I am supposed to succuмb to this diversion of personal interrogation and suspicion? If I am silent, am I guilty? If I deny it, I am a liar? Let me know if these are the only two choices. Really.