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PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 29, 2011, 05:52:56 AM »

Quote from: aquinasg

Muslims i the middle east sometimes kiss their friends Bilbes to show respect for Christians. JPII was just showing respect for Muslims. The fathers at Trent put the Bible side by side with the Summa. Protestants could say "see they are equal in Catholic eyes!" It depends on how you look at it

So by your logic, if the infidels were engaging in public fornication as a "sign of respect" to Christians, we should do the same in the name of ecuмenism?

You are incredibly misguided and in possession of a warped mind.

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 29, 2011, 05:56:25 AM »

Quote from: aquinasg

Quote from: LordPhan
Quote from: romantheology
Mr. Primus, are you Infallible?

Ecuмanism is heresy in and of itself, as per the Third Council of Constantinople any Pope who ecuмanises with heretics is guilty of heresy and condemned to hell for not defending the faith against heretics.

Source please

A 20 second search got me this:

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it is not allowable for anyone to produce another faith, that is, to write or to compose or to consider or to teach others; those who dare to compose another faith, or to support or to teach or to hand on another creed to those who wish to turn to knowledge of the truth, whether from Hellenism or Judaism or indeed from any heresy whatsoever, or to introduce novelty of speech, that is, invention of terms, so as to overturn what has now been defined by us, such persons, if they are bishops or clerics, are deprived of their episcopacy or clerical rank, and if they are monks or layfolk they are excommunicated.

http://www.dailycatholic.org/history/6ecuмen.htm

Do your homework next time, please, kindly sir.

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 29, 2011, 05:57:17 AM »

Quote from: aquinasg

Quote from: LordPhan

Ecuмanism is heresy in and of itself, as per the Third Council of Constantinople any Pope who ecuмanises with heretics is guilty of heresy and condemned to hell for not defending the faith against heretics.

Source please

A 20 second search got me this:

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it is not allowable for anyone to produce another faith, that is, to write or to compose or to consider or to teach others; those who dare to compose another faith, or to support or to teach or to hand on another creed to those who wish to turn to knowledge of the truth, whether from Hellenism or Judaism or indeed from any heresy whatsoever, or to introduce novelty of speech, that is, invention of terms, so as to overturn what has now been defined by us, such persons, if they are bishops or clerics, are deprived of their episcopacy or clerical rank, and if they are monks or layfolk they are excommunicated.

http://www.dailycatholic.org/history/6ecuмen.htm

Do your homework next time, please, kindly sir.

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 29, 2011, 05:57:48 AM »

Disregard first post, it somehow got formatted wrong due to your poorly formatted post.

Nishant · « **Reply #9 on:** October 29, 2011, 07:21:42 AM »

Ecuмenism, properly understood, is nothing more or less than the effort to bring all separated communities into corporate reunion with the Catholic Church. When there are prospects for the return of some 300 million souls, as among the Eastern schismatics, then an ecuмenism of return is a worthy prospect, and, if properly pursued is likely to be more fruitful than individual conversions alone. If the leaders of the Church act for zeal of souls, they could achieve great good. If they act out of human respect, they stand condemned in that matter, as St.Peter, Prince of the Apostles, was.

Now a cleric can resist such a Pope, to his face, as St.Paul did. But I do not think that applies straightaway to the laity.

Thus, St.Catherine,

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"Even if the Pope were Satan incarnate, we ought not to raise up our heads against him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom. He who rebels against our Father is condemned to death, for that which we do to him we do to Christ: we honor Christ if we honor the Pope; we dishonor Christ if we dishonor the Pope."