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"Pope" Francis:
« on: December 13, 2013, 01:45:40 PM »
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  • Check out this link:

    http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/index.htm#.Uqtf47QUahk

    Satan has absolved the world of the supernatural.  Seemingly 98% of the world has no idea what is in store for them at the moment of death or the reason for their existence.  This isn't funny anymore.  We need a Pope so bad.  

    Father Brown says it is not the unFrancis but Ratzinger who retired from heading the anti-Catholic institution; because there just has to be a Pope somewhere.  I know it can't be the two above.  I think the pope is under my desk.  No, no, he is across the hall.  No, that isn't him either.  Is that him shouting from the other building?  Nope.  Hmm.  He's around here somewhere.  He just has to be.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    "Pope" Francis:
    « Reply #1 on: December 13, 2013, 02:39:34 PM »
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  • Quote from: Lover of Truth
    Check out this link:

    http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/index.htm#.Uqtf47QUahk
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    That's a pretty good link there, L'T.


    I liked this part:  






    Above:
    
    Francis' new-and-improved version of
    Michelangelo's Last Judgment in the Vatican's Sistine Chapel.

    Clearly, the Renaissance artist totally missed
    the true nature and impact of
    this little get-together at the end of our lives, which,
    according to Francis, essentially consists of
    a high-five, a back slap, and a hearty

    "Welcome to Heaven, buddy!"








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    "Pope" Francis:
    « Reply #2 on: December 13, 2013, 04:09:08 PM »
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  • Wow.  Excellent link.  In my own life, I found this sort of 'teaching' utterly destructive to my soul.  If I do not hold the possibility of damnation before myself, temptation comes rushing in.  


    (See, when we aren't discussing scientific stuff, we get along fine.)

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    "Pope" Francis:
    « Reply #3 on: December 13, 2013, 04:26:02 PM »
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  • Perhaps the pope is like the Yama Yama Man?

    "Maybe he's hiding behind the chair waiting to spring and take you aware."

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    "Pope" Francis:
    « Reply #4 on: December 13, 2013, 07:04:11 PM »
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    "...ready to spring out at you unaware."




    1.
    Ev'ry little tot at night,
    Is afraid of the dark you know.
    Some big Yama man they see,
    When off to bed they go.

        Refrain:

            Yama, Yama, the Yama man,
            Terrible eyes and a face of tan.
            If you don't watch out he'll get you without a doubt,
            If he can.
           Maybe he's hiding behind the chair,
            Ready to spring out at you unaware.

            Run to your mama,
            For here comes the Yama Yama man.

    2.
    Great big scary eyes you see,
    So you cover up your head.
    But that Yama man is there,
    Standing right beside your bed.

        Refrain





    "Take you unawares" is an idiom I recall from many years past but when I searched for it on the Internet there were no results.  Hmmmmmmmm....

    The problem could be my source.  I don't remember who told me that, but whoever it was may have had their own version of something, perhaps this Yama Yama Man song from 1908?


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    "Pope" Francis:
    « Reply #5 on: December 13, 2013, 07:33:12 PM »
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    The most impressive aspect of this page is the Scripture references.  I have copied the following starting about 1/3 the way down this linked NovusOrdoWatch website page, and I have embedded the four "Relevant Links" found on the source page, in the event NovusOrdoWatch is offline for whatever reason (I would not at all be surprised if that happens, considering the content of this page):






    TIME Magazine chooses Jorge Bergoglio
    as "Person of the Year" 2013



    Relevant Links:

        "Pope Francis, the People's Pope" (TIME explains why they chose Francis)

        "Why Pope Francis is TIME's Person of the Year" (John Thavis)

        "Pope Francis is 'the Most Popular' on Facebook" (TheLocal.it)

        Another Francis Admirer: Barack Obama




    No comments needed, just a few quotes from Holy Scripture:

        "Woe to you when men shall bless you: for according to these things did their fathers to the false prophets." (Lk 6:26)
        "Blessed are ye when they shall revile you, and persecute you, and speak all that is evil against you, untruly, for my sake: Be glad and rejoice, for your reward is very great in heaven. For so they persecuted the prophets that were before you." (Mt 5:11-12)
        "And you shall be hated by all men for my name' s sake: but he that shall persevere unto the end, he shall be saved." (Mt 10:22)
        "If the world hate you, know ye, that it hath hated me before you." (Jn 15:18)
        "And they adored the dragon, which gave power to the beast: and they adored the beast, saying: Who is like to the beast? and who shall be able to fight with him?" (Apoc 13:4)



    This is a large page, and there is a continuity and content there of its own.  In the event that a reader here might be overwhelmed with the volume or the style of presentation, here is a segment down the page with numerous more Scripture citations -- which is very helpful because even if we are already familiar with the Bible, we might not recall off hand the relevant passages that apply to a given situation, but when someone like this puts them all together for us, all we have to do is read it, and go, "Oh yeah, I remember that now.........."



    ("Pope: Never fear the final judgment, because Christ will always be at our side", Dec. 11, 2013, AsiaNews.it)


    Francis' carefree attitude toward death and judgment is not new -- his immediate predecessor, Benedict XVI, also had an aversion to mentioning that alternate destination to Heaven. He began his first encyclical letter, supposedly on charity, by omitting an unpopular part of a beautiful Gospel passage he quoted (the words in red are the ones Benedict omitted): "For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting" (Jn 3:16). You can verify for yourself that Benedict left out these crucial but "negative" words from his encyclical on luv -- CLICK HERE for a screen shot of the page on the Vatican web site, and click here for the link to the full encyclical (the quote with the omission is found in the second paragraph of the introduction).

    By contrast, Holy Mother Church has always given us to understand that we must have a holy, filial fear of death and God's judgment, which is infinitely perfect and totally unlike the judgments of men, who can only see the outside and are subject to deception, misunderstanding, and a lack of knowledge.

    The great Fr. Franz Hunolt, nicknamed the "German St. Alphonsus," preached powerful sermons about all aspects of Christian life as it pertains to the salvation of our souls, including some on the Four Last Things (Death, Judgment, Heaven, Hell). You can read them for free online (start with this link for the sermon index - see Volume 5), or you can purchase a print copy here (BookFinder) or here (Amazon).

    Holy Scripture, of course, is filled with passages speaking of the end of our lives, salvation and damnation, judgment, Heaven, hell, God's justice and mercy, forgiveness and punishment. Consider just the following few "unpopular" samples and ask yourself if the testimony of Holy Writ does not perhaps create a picture that is a bit less, shall we say, "upbeat" about the soul's final judgment than the impression Francis gives:

        Isaias 11:3-4
        And he [the Messiah] shall be filled with the spirit of the fear of the Lord. He shall not judge according to the sight of the eyes, nor reprove according to the hearing of the ears. But he shall judge the poor with justice, and shall reprove with equity for the meek of the earth....

        Micheas 7:4
        He that is best among them, is as a brier: and he that is righteous, as the thorn of the hedge. The day of thy inspection, thy visitation cometh: now shall be their destruction.

        Sophonias 3:5,8
        The just Lord is in the midst thereof, he will not do iniquity: in the morning, in the morning he will bring his judgment to light, and it shall not be hid: but the wicked man hath not known shame. Wherefore expect me, saith the Lord, in the day of my resurrection that is to come, for my judgment is to assemble the Gentiles, and to gather the kingdoms: and to pour upon them my indignation, all my fierce anger: for with the fire of my jealousy shall all the earth be devoured.

        Amos 5:18,20
        Woe to them that desire the day of the Lord: to what end is it for you? the day of the Lord is darkness, and not light. Shall not the day of the Lord be darkness, and not light: and obscurity, and no brightness in it?

        Malachias 4:5
        Behold I will send you Elias the prophet, before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.

        Matthew 7:13-14
        Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat. How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it!

        Matthew 7:22-23
        Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.

        Matthew 13:49-50
        So shall it be at the end of the world. The angels shall go out, and shall separate the wicked from among the just.      And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

        Luke 13:24-25
        Strive to enter by the narrow gate; for many, I say to you, shall seek to enter, and shall not be able. But when the master of the house shall be gone in, and shall shut the door, you shall begin to stand without, and knock at the door, saying: Lord, open to us. And he answering, shall say to you: I know you not, whence you are.

        Romans 2:2,5
        For we know that the judgment of God is, according to truth, against them that do such things. But according to thy hardness and impenitent heart, thou treasurest up to thyself wrath, against the day of wrath, and revelation of the just judgment of God.

        Hebrews 10:30-31
        For we know him that hath said: Vengeance belongeth to me, and I will repay. And again: The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

        1 Peter 4:17-18
        For the time is, that judgment should begin at the house of God. And if first at us, what shall be the end of them that believe not the gospel of God? And if the just man shall scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

        1 John 2:28
        And now, little children, abide in him, that when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be confounded by him at his coming.

        Jude 1:14-15
        Now of these Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying: Behold, the Lord cometh with thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to reprove all the ungodly for all the works of their ungodliness, whereby they have done ungodly, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against God.

        Apocalypse 3:3
        Have in mind therefore in what manner thou hast received and heard: and observe, and do penance. If then thou shalt not watch, I will come to thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know at what hour I will come to thee.

        Apocalypse 6:15-17
        And the kings of the earth, and the princes, and tribunes, and the rich, and the strong, and every bondman, and every freeman, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of mountains: And they say to the mountains and the rocks: Fall upon us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth upon the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of their wrath is come, and who shall be able to stand?

        Apocalypse 20:11-15
        And I saw a great white throne, and one sitting upon it, from whose face the earth and heaven fled away, and there was no place found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing in the presence of the throne, and the books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged by those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and hell gave up their dead that were in them; and they were judged every one according to their works. And hell and death were cast into the pool of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was cast into the pool of fire.


    Truly, there is nothing that ought to be feared more than the judgment of Almighty God! Biblical testimony is simply super-abundant on this point.

    Consider also the wise instruction of the great St. Alphonsus Liguori, who taught the following in a sermon about the Particular Judgment:

    Now, what shall be the terror of each of us when we shall be at the point of death, and shall have before our eves the judgment which must take place the very moment the soul departs from the body? Then shall be decided our doom to eternal life, or to eternal death. At the time of the passage of their souls from this life to eternity, the sight of their past sins, the rigor of God's judgment, and the uncertainty of their eternal salvation, have made the saints tremble. St. Mary Magdalene de Pazzi trembled in her sickness, through the fear of judgment; and to her confessor, when he endeavored to give her courage, she said: "Ah! Father, it is a terrible thing to appear before Christ in judgment." After spending so many years in penance in the desert St. Agatha trembled at the hour of death, and said: "What shall become of me when I shall be judged? The venerable Father Louis da Fonte was seized with such a fit of trembling at the thought of the account which he should render to God, that he shook the room in which he lay. The thought of judgment inspired the venerable Juvenal Ancina, Priest of the Oratory, and afterwards Bishop of Saluzzo, with, the determination to leave the world. Hearing the Dies Irae sung, and considering the terror of the soul when presented before Jesus Christ, the Judge, he took, and afterwards executed, the resolution of giving himself entirely to God.

    (St. Alphonsus, Sermon on the Particular Judgment for the Eighth Sunday after Pentecost)


    Apparently St. Alphonsus didn't get the memo that the Final Judgment would be a cakewalk for all who simply "believe" the Gospel.

    Let us also recall the warning of St. John Vianney that any soul that does not pray for the grace of final perseverance will not receive it. Not exactly what Jorge Bergoglio has been spouting as of late, is it?

    Then there's the well-known sequence Dies Irae (Day of Wrath), which Holy Mother Church has her priests recite at Requiem Masses for the dead, gives melodic and poetic expression to the terrible and frightening event that will be our judgment. You can watch a beautiful clip of its musical performance here (Mozart version) and read the text in the Latin and in English translation at this link. Ask yourself if the content of the Dies Irae is compatible with Bergoglio's hippie gospel. Hint: It's Dies Irae, not Dies Gaudii - Day of Wrath, not Day of Joy.

    Don't be fooled by those Novus Ordo apologists who will find for you a quote here or there from Francis where he seems to be teaching you some orthodox doctrine (if they can find one!), where he appears to be contradicting what he taught on Dec. 11, 2013, in his Wednesday catechesis. Such are but the tricks of heretics and deceivers, which allow them to inject the poison of their errors all the more cleverly:

    It often happens that certain unworthy ideas come forth in the Church of God which, although they directly contradict each other, plot together to undermine the purity of the Catholic faith in some way. It is very difficult to cautiously balance our speech between both enemies in such a way that We seem to turn Our backs on none of them, but to shun and condemn both enemies of Christ equally. Meanwhile the matter is such that diabolical error, when it has artfully colored its lies, easily clothes itself in the likeness of truth while very brief additions or changes corrupt the meaning of expressions; and confession, which usually works salvation, sometimes, with a slight change, inches toward death.

    (Pope Clement XIII, Encyclical In Dominico Agro [1761], par. 2)


    Similarly, Pope Pius VI firmly denounced...

    the erroneous pretext that ... seemingly shocking affirmations in one place are further developed along orthodox lines in other places, and even in yet other places corrected; as if allowing for the possibility of either affirming or denying the statement, or of leaving it up to the personal inclinations of the individual – such has always been the fraudulent and daring method used by innovators to establish error. It allows for both the possibility of promoting error and of excusing it.


    He then slammed the heretic Nestorius, who...

    expressed himself in a plethora of words, mixing true things with others that were obscure; mixing at times one with the other in such a way that he was also able to confess those things which were denied while at the same time possessing a basis for denying those very sentences which he confessed.


    The same Pope Pius then gave clear instruction as to how to deal with such heresies-in-orthodox-disguise:

    Whenever it becomes necessary to expose statements that disguise some suspected error or danger under the veil of ambiguity, one must denounce the perverse meaning under which the error opposed to Catholic truth is camouflaged.

    (Pope Pius VI, Bull Auctorem Fidei [1794], corpus.)


    Anyone who would seek to deny the truth about the danger of hell and the seriousness of God's judgment, preaches a false gospel; he is a false prophet, a false teacher, a liar, and an antichrist (cf. 2 Cor 11:4; 2 Tim 4:3; Gal 1:6-9; 1 Jn 4:3; 2 Jn 1:9). We have been warned!

    Ponder this: Who would have an interest in making sure you do not fear your own judgment? Is it God? Or is it not rather the old Enemy, the father of lies (cf. Jn 8:44) that already tempted Eve in the Garden, claiming deceitfully, "No, you shall not die the death" (Gen 3:4)?

    The gospel preached by Francis is straight from hell.

    "But the hireling, and he that is not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and flieth: and the wolf catcheth, and scattereth the sheep: And the hireling flieth, because he is a hireling: and he hath no care for the sheep" (Jn 10:12-13).

    Regardless of whether Francis be the wolf or the hireling, he is definitely not the Shepherd!

    Do not listen to Francis -- he is an antipope, a deceiver, a false teacher (see more evidence here). Take good care of your soul; fear God's judgment, and prepare your soul for the day when you shall meet Him to render an account of your works: "...for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible: and who can stand it?" (Joel 2:11).



    ..........and the next thing on the page is the big yellow smiley face that I already copied in my earlier post................


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    "Pope" Francis:
    « Reply #6 on: December 13, 2013, 09:30:26 PM »
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    I think this post I made, just above here, is useful because it encapsulates some key points of the NovusOrdoWatch source page.  I had left out a lot of the embedded links in my post, above, so finding that inconvenient upon re-reading it, I have put some of them in here, below, for the convenience of any readers of this:  




    Truly, there is nothing that ought to be feared more than the judgment of Almighty God!  Biblical testimony is simply super-abundant on this point.



    "Pope: Never fear the final judgment, because Christ will always be at our side" -- Dec. 11, 2013, AsiaNews.it



    Apparently St. Alphonsus didn't get the memo that the Final Judgment would be a cakewalk for all who simply "believe" the Gospel.



    Let us also recall the warning of St. John Vianney that any soul that does not pray for the grace of final perseverance will not receive it. Not exactly what Jorge Bergoglio has been spouting as of late, is it?



    Then there's the well-known sequence Dies Irae (Day of Wrath), which Holy Mother Church has her priests recite at Requiem Masses for the dead, gives melodic and poetic expression to the terrible and frightening event that will be our judgment. You can watch a beautiful clip of its musical performance here (Mozart version) and read the text in the Latin and in English translation at this link.

    Ask yourself -- if the content of the Dies Irae is compatible with Bergoglio's hippie gospel. Hint: It's Dies Irae, not Dies Gaudii - Day of Wrath, not Day of Joy.



    There is even a hint of prophesy offered here -- not that this takes any infused knowledge to come up with the principle stated:  it is a matter of record that this is what the unclean spirit of Vat.II has evoked from those who comply with the wiles and snares of the devil! ----

    Don't be fooled by those Novus Ordo apologists who will find for you a quote here or there from Francis where he seems to be teaching you some orthodox doctrine (if they can find one!), where he appears to be contradicting what he taught on Dec. 11, 2013, in his Wednesday catechesis. Such are but the tricks of heretics and deceivers, which allow them to inject the poison of their errors all the more cleverly:

         
         It often happens that certain unworthy ideas come forth
         in the Church of God which, although they directly
         contradict each other, plot together to undermine the
         purity of the Catholic faith in some way.
         It is very difficult to cautiously balance our speech
         between both enemies in such a way that We seem
         to turn Our backs on none of them, but to shun and
         condemn both enemies of Christ equally. Meanwhile
         the matter is such that diabolical error, when it has artfully
         colored its lies, easily clothes itself in the likeness of truth
         while very brief additions or changes corrupt the
         meaning of expressions; and confession, which usually
         works salvation, sometimes, with a slight change, inches
         toward death.


    (Pope Clement XIII, Encyclical In Dominico Agro [1761], par. 2)





    -- The NovusOrdoWatch householder "bringeth forth out of his treasure new things and old" (cf. Matt. xiii. 52).

    The wreckovationists at Vat.II abused that Scripture making it the excuse for innovation.  But that isn't what Our Lord meant for us to hear, for those with ears to hear.  He was telling us that after the usurpers have had their way, the faithful conservators of the True Word of God shall come forward with treasures long forgotten, and shall expose the modern accretions of error for the lies that they are, for all to see.






    Similarly, Pope Pius VI firmly denounced...

         ...the erroneous pretext that ... seemingly shocking
         affirmations in one place are further developed
         along orthodox lines in other places, and even in
         yet other places corrected; as if allowing for the
         possibility of either affirming or denying the
         statement, or of leaving it up to the personal
         inclinations of the individual – such has always been
         the fraudulent and daring method used by innovators
         to establish error. It allows for both the possibility of
         promoting error and of excusing it.


    He then slammed the heretic Nestorius, who...

         ...expressed himself in a plethora of words, mixing
         true things with others that were obscure; mixing
         at times one with the other in such a way that he
         was also able to confess those things which were
         denied while at the same time possessing a basis
         for denying those very sentences which he confessed.


    The same Pope Pius then gave clear instruction as to how to deal with such heresies-in-orthodox-disguise:

         Whenever it becomes necessary to expose statements
         that disguise some suspected error or danger under
         the veil of ambiguity, one must denounce the perverse
         meaning under which the error opposed to Catholic
         truth is camouflaged.

    (Pope Pius VI, Bull Auctorem Fidei [1794], corpus.)





    -- The NovusOrdoWatch householder "bringeth forth out of his treasure new things and old" (cf. Matt. xiii. 52).





    Anyone who would seek to deny the truth about the danger of hell and the seriousness of God's judgment, preaches a false gospel; he is a false prophet, a false teacher, a liar, and an antichrist (cf. 2 Cor 11:4; 2 Tim 4:3; Gal 1:6-9; 1 Jn 4:3; 2 Jn 1:9). We have been warned!

    Ponder this: Who would have an interest in making sure you do not fear your own judgment? Is it God? Or is it not rather the old Enemy, the father of lies (cf. Jn 8:44) that already tempted Eve in the Garden, claiming deceitfully, "No, you shall not die the death" (Gen 3:4)?

    The gospel preached by Francis is straight from hell.



    "But the hireling, and he that is not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and flieth: and the wolf catcheth, and scattereth the sheep: And the hireling flieth, because he is a hireling: and he hath no care for the sheep" (Jn 10:12-13).

    Regardless of whether Francis be the wolf or the hireling, he is definitely not the Shepherd!

    Do not listen to Francis -- he is an antipope, a deceiver, a false teacher (see more evidence here). Take good care of your soul; fear God's judgment, and prepare your soul for the day when you shall meet Him to render an account of your works: "...for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible: and who can stand it?" (Joel 2:11).





    It would appear that "an antipope" is a little bit too mild of a term for this.  This papacy would seem to be the immediate follow-up to that of Paul VI of infelicitous memory (read: of nightmares).  

    What greater challenge is there for Catholics than to pray for their enemies?  In Francis we have an enemy of the Church, in fulfillment of dire warnings, of prophesy we should not despise (cf. I Thes. v. 20).  This very word was given to us by the venerable Pope Leo XIII of felicitous memory, who wrote in his Prayer to St. Michael that the enemies of the Church would invade the highest offices of the Vatican and lay unclean hands on her most sacred vessels.  Of course, that portion got "edited out" like the words of St. John in iii. 16
    "may not perish, but" were edited out by the Nestorian pope, B16.

    For it now seems to me that one Father Joseph Ratzinger had held the heretic Nestorius to be his role model, his hero, his case study, even long before Vat.II, for it was at Vat.II that the young heretic Ratzinger found the opportunity to revive the false teachings of Nestorius and to re-introduce them in the modern world, without ever mentioning his infatuation with this heretic of old -- being ever so diligent to never mention his infatuation with Nestorius and his doctrine from hell -- and it was his being elected pope that gave him the chance to see his lifelong fantasy fulfilled, and it was his abdication that gave him the opportunity to see his follow-up guy, Francis, take the show on the road, to give the world what the young Fr. Ratzinger had dreamed of at the shining Council on a hill, Vat.II.  

    THAT is the reason he shed a tear for the Man of the Year.  It was his dream come true!  ~~  Isn't that just so SWEET? ............. (NOT!)

    We can see this in his damnable 'hermeneutic of continuity' where he says that heresies of the past can be reconciled with the Truth of God, even if it would demand that we deny the principle of non-contradiction to do so.  

    Any philosopher worth the time of day can see that to deny the principle of non-contradiction destroys all right reason and sane thinking from the very start, and it was so repugnant to any sane mind a hundred and six years ago, that in Pascendi, the great Pope St. Pius X (and perhaps his assistants Cardinal Merry del Val and Fr. Lemius) had said that Modernism injects the poison of hell into the very roots of the Tree of Faith, such that all the trunk and the branches and even the leaves are destroyed, for Modernism is the wreck and ruin of all religion -- even they were unable to speak the frightening words that a pope of the Church would one day deny the principle of non-contradiction and the world would not stand up in utter defiance of his heresy.  

    For it is worse than heresy.  


    It is taking the stand of being an enemy, not only of all religion, but an enemy of man's singular power that puts him above the brute animals:  his power to T-H-I-N-K.  [/color]



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    « Reply #7 on: December 13, 2013, 09:46:49 PM »
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  • Has anyone noticed the "horns" protruding from Francis' head on the Time cover?
    "Kindness is for fools! They [modernists] want to be treated with oil, soap, and caresses, but they ought to be beaten with fists. In a duel, you don't count or measure the blows, you strike as you can. War is not made with charity. It is a struggle, a duel." -- Pope St. Pius X


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    « Reply #8 on: December 14, 2013, 10:39:36 PM »
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  • 'Don't Fear the Last Judgment!'

    If you are in the state of sanctifying grace then you have nothing to fear.

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    « Reply #9 on: December 15, 2013, 07:17:28 AM »
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    Has anyone noticed the "horns" protruding from Francis' head on the Time cover?


    I did. Very eerie, if you ask me.

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    « Reply #10 on: December 15, 2013, 07:45:50 AM »
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    Has anyone noticed the "horns" protruding from Francis' head on the Time cover?


    It's difficult to believe that Time magazine's staff of editors, photographers, producers, etc. would miss that.  
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    « Reply #11 on: December 16, 2013, 09:10:16 AM »
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    Has anyone noticed the "horns" protruding from Francis' head on the Time cover?


    I have now.

    If the world loves him, especially in today's society.  Well that says alot.  Maybe he will get the peace prize like Obama.  We live among some great men.  
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #12 on: December 20, 2013, 11:25:08 PM »
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  • Well, well, if you look even more closely you will see that not only does he have two horns, but a tail as well.  The little knot on his cap looks like a little tail.

    Time also has him in profile on the cover & again, even in profile there's the two horns & tail!

    Now if you think that's just a coincidence,  when they had Pope Pius XII on the cover he was shown dignified and positioned down from the word TIME so that he had no horns or tail.

    I can't take credit for this.  It's on Tradition in Action in their last update.  
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  • To anyone who is looking to find these stories on Francis & the Last Judgment and the Time Magazine Person of the Year story, the link given at the beginning may not work. The stories are here:

    Francis Time's Person of the Year

    Francis says Don't Fear the Last Judgment

    There was one poster here who said if we're in the state of grace, then we have nothing to fear from the Last Judgment. Not so. Purgatory is just as bad as hell, except it's not eternal.

    Also, about the "horns" showing on Francis on the Time cover, Tradition In Action put this interesting page together, and notes that this isn't the first time that Time has given him horns - last time, they were red even!

    TIA on a Two-Horned Francis


    Merry Christmas to all!

     

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