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"Nothing to Criticize about the Pope"
« on: March 12, 2014, 02:12:12 PM »
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  • http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/index.htm#.UyCwooX6Tgk

    Nothing left to criticize...

    Hans Küng No Longer "Pope" Critic,
    Endorses Francis
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    Hell's Apostle is back with yet another interview, almost like Francis. Earlier this year he had told the German leftist DER SPIEGEL magazine "I am not a heretic"; this time he once more endorses the chaos caused by "Pope" Francis, head of the Modernist Vatican II Sect.

    In an interview with Südwestpresse (full German original here), the Swiss apostate "theologian", who believes he will be going to Heaven despite his apostasy and even after committing his pre-announced suicide, declared: "I am overjoyed at not having to be a Pope critic any longer." Oh, has there been a sudden change of heart? No, not in the least; it's just that the program of the "Pope" is now essentially that of Hans Kung, so the need to oppose and be critical is no longer there.

    Read an article summarizing the interview here:

        Hans Küng is "Overjoyed" About Pope Francis -- "No Need to be a Pope Critic Any More" (English)


    So the world's most infamous Pope critic is a Pope critic no more because, essentially, there is nothing left to criticize. ...You can't make this stuff up.

    More on Hans Kung & Francis:

        Hans Kung loves "Pope" Francis
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        The Facts about Francis
        The "Bad Popes" Argument


    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    "Nothing to Criticize about the Pope"
    « Reply #1 on: March 12, 2014, 02:13:25 PM »
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     Hans Küng is "Overjoyed" About Pope Francis -- "No Need to be a Pope Critic Any More"
    (Tübingen) In an interview with the Südwestpresse, the heretical Swiss theologian Hans Küng is thrilled by Pope Francis. "He has already achieved some things that can no longer be withdrawn," Küng is convinced. "It can not even be foreseen what the changes already initiated  mean."
    Even for Hans Küng there seems to be doubt as to what course is  actually being pursued by the Argentine Pope. He has "joy" about the new Pope, but this is not detrimental. Although "not yet decided upon which course he will really strike out upon" but "to think that he was not a reformer, would be to close our eyes to the facts." The fact that Francis is a reformer, Küng is points directly to form. Rightly, he notes, "There is  control over the content. But if a Pope greets the people with "buona sera", that is a signal. "

    The Pope "Is a Jesuit Priest and Therefore One Who Can Prevail"

    The papal election was for him a "positive surprise", and he was "delighted,"  reported Küng. Francis "is a Jesuit priest and therefore one who can prevail."  Francis set the tone "even with his clothes - the abandonment of gold, lace and precious stones".  New he uses  "simple, direct language." "People understand him, and feel cared about,"  said Küng, convinced, given the deliberately ambiguous, vague language of the Pope. "I have made many proposals for reform in the course of my life. But that a Pope could leave the papal palace in such an elegant way.  I could not imagine. "

    On Remarried Divorcees Followed Pope "a great strategy"

    In terms of remarried divorcees Küng is convinced that Francis has pursued "a great strategy." "First of all he surveyed the group of eight cardinals, then the whole College of Cardinals. In the fall there will eventually be a synod on the family. Of course, every step is a risk. But if Francis has the College of Cardinals behind him, he is no longer alone. He lays total emphasis on collegiality. "Küng is convinced that "the admission of remarried divorcees to the sacraments" will be implemented, most of all desires of the Progressive reform. "There he is performing the mercy of which he so often speaks, and putting it into practice." On the question of how large "is resistance within the Church  to reform"  Küng replied. "This is not easy to judge because there are hardliners in Curia and Church. There are also among the laity resistance groups such as the conservative Catholic forum. But this Pope has  amazingly managed to win over many people of all stripes in  virtually no time for himself and his course."

    Küng stresses himself to be for women priests, but  he sees its introduction as "more difficult"  than the "overcoming of celibacy."  For Küng,  "women's ordination" affirms the "justified appreciation" that Jesus "gave to women." The Swiss theologian notes at the same time, however, that the question "controversial". The "pastoral need of  communities" considering the shortage of priests might "force" its introduction.

    "Hardliners" Try to Prevent "reforms"

    Küng described opponents of his theories  as "hardliners" and "resistance groups", referring to among others, Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller and the Forum of German Catholics. He puts them in direct opposition to Pope Francis, it was "astonishingly successful" that  "many people are taking stock in no time at all for himself and his course."

    The elevation of the Prefect of the CDF to the Cardinal's position was regarded by Küng as "inevitable." A non-survey "would have conjured up a confrontation that would serve no one." Apparently Küng sees  the possibility that a "reform" will be endangered in the "confrontation"  of Pope Francis, which he's identified with himself. So Küng emphasized immediately that Francis entrusted the introductory speech "not to Müller", but Cardinal Walter Kasper in a"significant way" at the Cardinal Consistory on the Family.

    Kung's "Concern" in Front of a Shadow Pope Benedict XVI. "Reduced"
    At the same time  Küng warns against "false compromises". The Swiss theologian seems worried that  a year after the resignation of Benedict XVI., this "could be a shadow of Pope." In his "recent letter I wrote Joseph Ratzinger," that he "sees  his only job as to help Francis by his prayer." This statement has "reduced" Küng's worry just a little.

    Küng concludes the interview by saying, is "happy" about Pope Francis. He had "always said his profession is not as a critic of the Pope." . "So I'm delighted that I no longer have to act as a critic of the pope." But that all stays in place, he added immediately: "However, I stress: if there were a restoration again, I would be back to Pope critic" .
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    « Reply #2 on: March 13, 2014, 10:44:39 PM »
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  • Give him time, when Pope Francis teaches what the Catholic Church teaches he will come out complaining.

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    « Reply #3 on: March 14, 2014, 12:58:52 AM »
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    Give him time, when Pope Francis teaches what the Catholic Church teaches he will come out complaining.


    When Pope Francis teaches what the Catholic Church teaches... are you for real ?

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    « Reply #4 on: March 19, 2014, 05:06:27 AM »
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  • The man who serves two popes has revealed that retired Pope Benedict XVI wrote four pages of critique and commentary on Pope Francis's landmark interview in which he blasted the church's obsession with "small-minded" rules.

    Monsignor Georg Gaenswein, Benedict's personal secretary and head of Francis' papal household, told German broadcaster ZDF that Francis had solicited Benedict's input on the interview, which was published in September in 16 Jesuit journals around the globe and helped define Francis' agenda.

    The Jesuit priest who conducted the interview, the Rev. Antonio Spadaro, said Tuesday that he gave the first printed copy of the interview to Francis on the day it was published. Francis gave that version to Benedict to critique, Spadaro told The Associated Press.

    Though Benedict's comments had no impact on the published article, the revelation is further evidence of the remarkable and unprecedented collaboration between the two popes, who stay in touch by phone, in person and by sending notes back and forth across the Vatican gardens via Gaenswein.

    Gaenswein told ZDF that Francis had given him a first copy of the interview to forward on to Benedict, and received a four-page letter from the retired pope three days later.

    "He did his homework — he read it and, in accordance with his successor's request, he did indeed offer some thoughts and some remarks on certain comments or certain questions on which he thought something additional could perhaps be said in another place," Gaenswein recalled.

    "Of course I won't say what, but that was interesting," Gaenswein said.

    Francis has said he relies on his predecessor's sage advice and has increasingly coaxed Benedict out of his secluded retirement to participate more in the public life of the church.

    http://news.yahoo.com/retired-pope-benedict-critiqued-francis-interview-114527095.html


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    « Reply #5 on: March 19, 2014, 09:52:42 AM »
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    Give him time, when Pope Francis teaches what the Catholic Church teaches he will come out complaining.


    Are you saying that Bergoglio hasn’t professed the Faith publicly to this point?
    "Kindness is for fools! They [modernists] want to be treated with oil, soap, and caresses, but they ought to be beaten with fists. In a duel, you don't count or measure the blows, you strike as you can. War is not made with charity. It is a struggle, a duel." -- Pope St. Pius X

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    « Reply #6 on: March 19, 2014, 10:51:32 PM »
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    Give him time, when Pope Francis teaches what the Catholic Church teaches he will come out complaining.


    Are you saying that Bergoglio hasn’t professed the Faith publicly to this point?

    No, what I am saying is that Pope Francis is going around saying all the things that are "politically correct" and part of the Catholic truth. There will come a time when he will make a pronouncement of the unpopular truths of our faith. It will be at that point that all of his so called friends will turn on him. I remember when Pope Paul VI was pope. He did all these reforms that were popular with certain left wing types. But then came the day when the commision that was studying the question of birth control came out with a recommendation that the church should change her teaching on that subject. It was at that time that he wrote Humanae Vitae reinforcing the Catholic teaching against artificial contraception. It was at that moment that all of his so called friends turned against him.      

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    « Reply #7 on: March 20, 2014, 04:04:36 PM »
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  • Given Hans Kung has no criticisms of Francis, perhaps he should apply for a job with Michael Voris and CMTV.
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17


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    « Reply #8 on: March 20, 2014, 04:46:50 PM »
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    Give him time, when Pope Francis teaches what the Catholic Church teaches he will come out complaining.


    Are you saying that Bergoglio hasn’t professed the Faith publicly to this point?

    No, what I am saying is that Pope Francis is going around saying all the things that are "politically correct" and part of the Catholic truth. There will come a time when he will make a pronouncement of the unpopular truths of our faith. It will be at that point that all of his so called friends will turn on him. I remember when Pope Paul VI was pope. He did all these reforms that were popular with certain left wing types. But then came the day when the commision that was studying the question of birth control came out with a recommendation that the church should change her teaching on that subject. It was at that time that he wrote Humanae Vitae reinforcing the Catholic teaching against artificial contraception. It was at that moment that all of his so called friends turned against him.      


    You really are in denial.
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17

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    « Reply #9 on: March 20, 2014, 04:49:08 PM »
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  • Quote from: 2Vermont

    You really are in denial.

    I think many folks involved with the Novus Ordo who care about the faith are in denial.
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