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Offline Geremia

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  • From the National "catholic" Fishwrap, another cheap shot at "Lefebvrists" trying to portray them as Jєω-haters:
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    A final note on a nαzι war criminal

    I've probably already devoted more space to the fracas in Rome over the idea of a Catholic funeral for convicted nαzι war criminal Erich Priebke than it's worth. As a final note, the leader of the Italian branch of the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X this week gave an interview explaining their decision to say a funeral Mass for the architect of the 1944 Ardeatine massacre.

    In the end, the funeral never happened, capsized by a melee between neo-nαzιs and outraged locals. Priebke's lawyer had turned to the Lefebvrists after the Vicariate of Rome, which governs the diocese in the name of the pope, refused to allow a funeral in one of its churches.

    Fr. Pierpaolo Petrucci, superior of the Italian district of the Society of St. Pius X, insists in the interview that hosting a funeral had nothing to do with honoring Priebke's memory or denying the h0Ɩ0cαųst, but rather obedience to church law.

    "The refusal by the Vicariate to permit a funeral for a baptized person who had received the sacraments of confession and the Eucharist, whatever his failures and sins may have been, was not in conformity with the law of the church and with Catholic doctrine," Petrucci said.

    "After confirming that Priebke had been baptized and received the sacraments, this decision seemed to us a grave injustice with regard both to the dead person and the family," he said.

    In that context, Petrucci couldn't resist a potshot at Pope Francis.

    "Never more than today, there's a lot of talk in the church about charity, about love of one's neighbor, especially under this pontificate," he said. "Yet when it's a matter of putting these virtues into practice in coherence with the Gospel, even when it's not politically correct and means running afoul of public opinion and the media, then things change."

    Petrucci goes to some lengths to insist that Priebke didn't meet the conditions in canon 1184 of the Code of Canon Law for denying a funeral to "manifest sinners" when the rite would create "public scandal." Whatever one makes of it, the interview confirms what I wrote last week: The episode puts an exclamation point on the epitaph already written for any realistic hope of détente with the traditionalists on Francis' watch.
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    "Lefebvrists" okay funeral for nαzι 8756, theyre Jєω-haters?
    « Reply #1 on: October 31, 2013, 04:10:00 AM »
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  • Kennedy anyone?
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    "Lefebvrists" okay funeral for nαzι 8756, theyre Jєω-haters?
    « Reply #2 on: October 31, 2013, 09:45:43 AM »
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  • Here're some more sources:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24544380
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/10/16/planned-funeral-for-nαzι-war-ciminal-called-off-by-lawyer-due-to-protests/

    Some pretty serious rioting occurred. According to this article, Erich Priebke's family couldn't even enter, yet the funeral still went ahead. So, effectively, it was a private funeral, thanks to the rioters.
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    "Lefebvrists" okay funeral for nαzι 8756, theyre Jєω-haters?
    « Reply #3 on: October 31, 2013, 10:55:29 AM »
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  • What's strange is that, as this article says, "the pope's vicar for Rome, Cardinal Agostino Vallini refused him a church funeral. Albano [Priebke's diocese] is about 30 kilometers (20 miles) southeast of Rome and isn't part of Vallini's archdiocese."

    How can Cardinal Agostino Vallini refuse a funeral for someone outside his diocese?
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    "Lefebvrists" okay funeral for nαzι 8756, theyre Jєω-haters?
    « Reply #4 on: October 31, 2013, 10:48:07 PM »
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  • Quote from: Geremia
    What's strange is that, as this article says, "the pope's vicar for Rome, Cardinal Agostino Vallini refused him a church funeral. Albano [Priebke's diocese] is about 30 kilometers (20 miles) southeast of Rome and isn't part of Vallini's archdiocese."

    How can Cardinal Agostino Vallini refuse a funeral for someone outside his diocese?


    We are not aware of all of the details it could be possible that he had requested in his will, to be buried in that Church? The devil is in the details, for whatever reason it was denied, one thing we know for sure is that according to the SSPX priest they denied him his funeral rites somewhere.

    Tension like this is only going to increase more and more, as the new religion completely gets rid of all the Catholic elements inside of itself.
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    "Lefebvrists" okay funeral for nαzι 8756, theyre Jєω-haters?
    « Reply #6 on: November 05, 2013, 12:41:10 PM »
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  • The article says Priebke was never affiliated with the SSPX.
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    "Lefebvrists" okay funeral for nαzι 8756, theyre Jєω-haters?
    « Reply #7 on: November 06, 2013, 05:36:18 PM »
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  •  :rolleyes:

    Q. 9. Other commentators, who obviously were poorly informed, likened your decision to the positions of Bishop Richard Williamson or of Fr. Floriano Abrahamowicz. What can you tell us on this subject?

    A. As the District Superior of the Society of St. Pius X in Italy, I have to make it clear that both Bishop Williamson and Fr. Floriano Abrahamowicz were expelled from our Society precisely because some of their positions are incompatible with the vocation of the Society. Their statements in no way represent the official thinking of the Society of St. Pius X. Any comparison is therefore purely gratuitous. Here I must note, furthermore, that some statements touted in the newspapers as mine are likewise not representative of our thinking. God’s mercy excludes no one when there is true repentance.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

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    "Lefebvrists" okay funeral for nαzι 8756, theyre Jєω-haters?
    « Reply #8 on: November 06, 2013, 05:39:10 PM »
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  • Does this mean that the "h0Ɩ0cαųst" is now the super-dogma of the Neo-SSPX as it is in the conciliar sect?
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    "Lefebvrists" okay funeral for nαzι 8756, theyre Jєω-haters?
    « Reply #9 on: November 07, 2013, 10:56:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matto
    Does this mean that the "h0Ɩ0cαųst" is now the super-dogma of the Neo-SSPX as it is in the conciliar sect?
    Why would you think it's "super-dogma of the Neo-SSPX"?

    UPDATE: Oh, I see the previous post. :)
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